[Bese-devel] simple submit sans javascript.

[Waldo Rubinstein]

I did it again :)

Apologies about that. I'm using my friends computer and I'm not used  
to his keyboard. Anyway, he's gonna kill me for posting under his  
name and publishing all his contact info :)

- Waldo

On May 9, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Daniel Salama wrote:

> My goodness,
>
> I never knew I could type with so many typos and grammatical errors  
> in such a short passage :) My apologies.
>
> - Waldo
>
> On May 9, 2006, at 3:48 PM, Waldo Rubinstein wrote:
>
>> I think that the exploitation of Ajax all over the place are  
>> spoiling the users, who after much work, time, and effort, finally  
>> accepted the way browser-based apps worked compared to fat client- 
>> server apps.
>>
>> Now that Ajax has hit the streets and has shown the users how it  
>> can disguise the back and forth of the usual browser-based  
>> interaction with something more seamless, is just forcing  
>> everything to the "pages bloated with javascript".
>>
>> At least this has been my experience with my customers. I don't  
>> develop for public users. All my applications are for internal  
>> purposes, intranet-like apps. So that "fat client-server"-like  
>> experience is not only appreciated, but now is being demanded.
>>
>> I haven't done much work with Dojo, simply because I started using  
>> Prototype (with rails). Now that I'm developing more with UCW I am  
>> appreciating more Dojo and, regardless of what everyone says, I  
>> like it. It may not be as easy as prototype at first, but it is  
>> certainly very powerful and better organized.
>>
>> I don't see the "big deal" in requiring it in UCW apps. Once of  
>> the things about Dojo compared to the rest is it's packaging  
>> system which will let you minimize the initial amount of  
>> javascript hat you need to load and then just load what you need  
>> more if you have to.
>>
>> - Waldo
>>
>> On May 9, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Drew Crampsie wrote:
>>
>>> Imagine my surprise when, after updating to ucw_dev, ALL my  
>>> application stopped working!
>>>
>>> The culprit? forms now require dojo to work. I like dojo as much  
>>> as the next guy, but i rarely initially develop in an environment  
>>> where it is available.
>>>
>>> To tell you the truth, i've never much liked the fact that forms  
>>> used Javascript to begin with, but lived with it until now :)
>>>
>>> anyways, patchy patchy applied to ucw_public and attached.  
>>> Personally, i think that SIMPLE-FORMS should become the default,  
>>> and the complex, bulky, page-bloating javascript producing forms  
>>> should be used only if the user specifically wants them.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> drewc