[Bese-devel] UCW Installation

[Waldo Rubinstein]

Julian,

Thanks for the advise. Very well received.

- Waldo

On Sep 10, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Julian Stecklina wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:46:23 -0400
> Waldo Rubinstein <waldo at trianet.net> wrote:
>
>
>> I installed SBCL on Tiger from Darwinports, so I didn't really
>> compile it. The Darwin 'port' took care of that for me and I guess
>> it didn't enable threads.
>>
>
> SBCL supports multithreading, but AFAIK only on Linux. We *BSD and
> Darwin/MacOSX guys are out of luck for the moment. I have bought an
> Allegro CL (which supports multi-threading) students license for
> FreeBSD ($99) and it really "pays". ;)
>
>
>> Reading about so many different versions of Lisp concerns me with
>> regards to application compatibility. That's the reason I'm using
>> SBCL because it runs on Mac as well as Linux.
>>
>
> If you stick to one portability layer like, say, acl-compat, you  
> should
> be on the safe side.
>
>
>> Because I'm new to Lisp, I wasn't sure if I developed an application
>> on my Mac, will I be able to run in on my Linux production
>> environment? I suppose that as long as my app conform to CL
>> Standards, I should be OK. However, reading on CLISP's web site, it
>> says it "implements most of the ANSI standard". Then, what open-
>> source Lisp versions are out there are conform to ANSI standards so
>> that applications "should" run unmodified across them?
>>
>
> All major CL implementations are quite ANSI conform. This includes
> CMUCL, SBCL, ACL and CLISP. Even GCL and ECL which historically
> implemented CLtL2 (which predates ANSI CL) are now very close to ANSI
> CL. As a newbie it is very unlikely that you hit corners where these
> implementations disagree. At least if you stay away from
> anything that is "undefined" in the spec.
>
>
>> May be you guys that have more experience can briefly suggest which
>> Lisps are more standards and that I can develop on Mac and deploy on
>> Linux.
>>
>
> I guess it makes sense to use OpenMCL on Mac and then switch to  
> SBCL on
> Linux. If you use threads (or other things outside the spec) directly,
> consider the portability layer mentioned above.
>
> Regards,
> -- 
> Julian Stecklina
>
> Lisp nearing the age of 50 is the most modern language out
> there. GC, dynamic, reflective, the best OO model extant including
> GFs, procedural macros, and the only thing old-fashioned about it
> is that it is compiled and fast.   -- Kenny Tilton, comp.lang.python
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