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<p dir="auto">OK, as I said, sorry about the delay. Anton, in place of Fare's #3 below, will you please just test what's in the <code style="background-color:#F7F7F7; border-radius:3px; margin:0; padding:0 0.4em" bgcolor="#F7F7F7">syntax-control-based-on-standard-syntax</code> branch? The comparison between 2 and 3 will tell us to what extent it's an issue to lock in standard syntax instead of whatever happens to be the current readtable when ASDF is loaded.</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks!<br>
r</p>
<p dir="auto">On 13 Feb 2018, at 22:36, Robert P. Goldman wrote:</p>
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<div style="white-space:normal"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir="auto">I'll get you a branch with the other setting for the syntax control, so you can just test with that instead of having to modify anything yourself. I'll get it pushed sometime tomorrow.<br>
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Sorry for the delay.<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
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<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#999; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px; border-left-color:#999"><p dir="auto">On Feb 13, 2018, at 20:15, Anton Vodonosov <avodonosov@yandex.ru> wrote:<br>
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Faré, hello.<br>
<br>
Sorry for replying so long - I'm almost paralyzed by too many things I need to deal with currently.<br>
I've started tests for the following commit. Will follow-up with the results.<br>
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commit 2a5bc3bece8f97fdf64dc73a4e0544a55ae38f9d<br>
Author: Robert P. Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.net><br>
Date: Tue Jan 16 16:20:15 2018 -0600<br>
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Bump version to 3.3.1.3<br>
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02.02.2018, 23:06, "Faré" <fahree@gmail.com>:</p>
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#BBB; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px; border-left-color:#BBB"><p dir="auto">Dear Anton,<br>
<br>
can you run the below tests, in order or priority?<br>
<br>
1- Can you test what is currently in master, a.k.a. 3.3.1.3, as a<br>
release candidate for 3.3.2? It has been too long since 3.3.1 was<br>
released with several bugs that have impacted Quicklisp users.<br>
<br>
2- Can you test what is currently in the syntax-control branch as a<br>
release candidate for 3.3.3 or 3.4.0? We want to merge syntax control,<br>
but it's a significant enough change that we don't want it at the same<br>
time as the bug fixes. Also...<br>
<br>
3- Can you test what is currently in the syntax-control branch as a<br>
release candidate for 3.3.3 or 3.4.0, but with the following addition<br>
just after you load asdf but before you start using it: (defparameter<br>
uiop:*shared-readtable* (copy-readtable nil)) ? Indeed, we want to see<br>
what breaks if we disable extensions implementation-specific reader<br>
extensions. Test most important on CCL. I don't expect much breakage<br>
on other implementations, but it may exist, too.<br>
<br>
4- While you're at it, can you also run the test, at least on sbcl,<br>
with (defparameter uiop:*shared-readtable* uiop:*standard-readtable*))<br>
? This will detect what breaks when we make the default readtable<br>
read-only.<br>
<br>
The thing is, we really want to have this syntax control, but we also<br>
want to preserve backward compatibility, and we can't make asdf<br>
stricter until every client is fixed (famous last word; of course we<br>
failed at exactly that in 3.3.1 — we could build correctly, but would<br>
also spuriously rebuild if secondary systems were misnamed; fixed in<br>
3.3.1.3).<br>
<br>
<a href="https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/blob/syntax-control/doc/syntax-control.md" style="color:#BBB">https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/blob/syntax-control/doc/syntax-control.md</a><br>
<a href="https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/merge_requests/86" style="color:#BBB">https://gitlab.common-lisp.net/asdf/asdf/merge_requests/86</a><br>
<a href="http://blog.quicklisp.org/2018/01/build-failures-with-asdf-331.html" style="color:#BBB">http://blog.quicklisp.org/2018/01/build-failures-with-asdf-331.html</a><br>
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—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection&Cybernethics• <a href="http://fare.tunes.org" style="color:#BBB">http://fare.tunes.org</a><br>
A friend once asked me if I had ever considered terrorism as a means for<br>
political change. I replied that yes, I had considered it... and rejected it.<br>
Because it only causes change for the worse.<br>
Killing innocent people does not promote a culture of peaceful interaction.</p>
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