"How-to" request
Robert P. Goldman
rpgoldman at sift.net
Sat Mar 20 14:51:16 UTC 2021
Oh, yes, you are right about :properties. I had forgotten. I generally add my own dedicated slot, but :properties is probably fine.
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Robert P. Goldman
On March 20, 2021 at 09:23:21, Marco Antoniotti (marco.antoniotti at unimib.it(mailto:marco.antoniotti at unimib.it)) wrote:
> Hi Robert
>
> isn't :properties a kitchen sink for "plist" stuff? Just using it does not require subclassing ASDF:SYSTEM, but I see that there may be some issues. I guess I can come up with something different.
>
> All the best
>
> Marco
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 3:19 PM Robert P. Goldman <rpgoldman at sift.net(mailto:rpgoldman at sift.net)> wrote:
> > Neat! Thanks for posting the pointer! BTW, you might want to change the name from :properties to something like :doc-properties to avoid potential name collisions...
> >
> > --
> > Robert P. Goldman
> >
> > On March 20, 2021 at 09:11:45, Marco Antoniotti (marco.antoniotti at unimib.it(mailto:marco.antoniotti at unimib.it)) wrote:
> >
> > > Cool, thanks!
> > >
> > > Turns out that just using :properties in the system definition works.
> > >
> > > Check out (within parens...): HEΛPing ASDF (within-parens.blogspot.com)(https://within-parens.blogspot.com/2021/03/he-asdf.html)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Marco
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 2:41 PM Robert P. Goldman <rpgoldman at sift.net(mailto:rpgoldman at sift.net)> wrote:
> > > > Yes, if you look at FIVEAM-ASDF, that is how John Maraist and I do it. We introduce a subclass of systems that has an extra slot holding the list of tests to be performed, and PERFORM reads that slot when doing TEST-OP.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Robert P. Goldman
> > > >
> > > > On March 20, 2021 at 02:45:57, Marco Antoniotti (marco.antoniotti at unimib.it(mailto:marco.antoniotti at unimib.it)) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, can you at least have a plist or something in the component specification? I presume yes. I am just allergic to RTFM as you know :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Marco
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 12:04 AM Robert Goldman <rpgoldman at sift.info(mailto:rpgoldman at sift.info)> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't actually. Faré deprecated that. The reasons are complicated, but basically, it wasn't possible to propagate arguments through a plan. What do you need an argument for? Maybe there's a work-around.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 19 Mar 2021, at 16:24, Marco Antoniotti wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you do not advise to specialize OPERATE, how do you pass arguments to PERFORM?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 7:45 PM Robert Goldman <rpgoldman at sift.info(mailto:rpgoldman at sift.info)> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > P.S. I don't recommend writing your own OPERATE methods -- OPERATE is quite complicated and messing with it could lead you into very deep water. I don't believe you should ever need to.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 19 Mar 2021, at 13:42, Robert Goldman wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi. I'm happy to help you work through this, but so that it doesn't recur as a problem, I'd appreciate it if you would help me fix the manual's discussion of this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > First, have you read this page https://common-lisp.net/project/asdf/asdf.html#Creating-new-operations ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please have a look at that -- it's not very long -- and let us know what more needs to be supplied.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I note the discussion of operation-done-p. I suspect that is your problem -- your new operation is not aware that it needs to be performed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This page is substantially redundant with the pages on the object model, and should be beefed up with cross-references, and more inclusion of docstrings...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 19 Mar 2021, at 12:58, Marco Antoniotti wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I am trying to create a new ASDF:OPERATION, but I must be missing something and the manual (or Google) does not seem to help much.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > How do you create a new operation, which may be quite simple? Or better, how do you get PERFORM and/or OPERATE to actually do something for you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I know I should RTFM, but in this case it is more of a RTFC, which is far more difficult.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I tried the following
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (defclass my-op (non-propagating-operation) ())
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (defmethod perform ((o my-op) (s system))
> > > > > > > > > > (print 42))
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (defmethod operate ((o my-op) (s system) &key &allow-other-keys)
> > > > > > > > > > (print 666))
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But then, doing
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > cl-user 42> (operate 'my-op (find-system "somesys") :bar 1024)
> > > > > > > > > > #<MY-OP >
> > > > > > > > > > #<ASDF/PLAN:SEQUENTIAL-PLAN 2301B97B>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > is all I get.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any tutorial or advice?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01
> > > > > > > > > > DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it(http://dcb.disco.unimib.it/)
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01
> > > > > > > DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it(http://dcb.disco.unimib.it/)
> > > > > > > Viale Sarca 336
> > > > > > > I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01
> > > > > DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it(http://dcb.disco.unimib.it/)
> > > > > Viale Sarca 336
> > > > > I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01
> > > DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it(http://dcb.disco.unimib.it/)
> > > Viale Sarca 336
> > > I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY
>
>
> --
> Marco Antoniotti, Associate Professor tel. +39 - 02 64 48 79 01
> DISCo, Università Milano Bicocca U14 2043 http://dcb.disco.unimib.it(http://dcb.disco.unimib.it/)
> Viale Sarca 336
> I-20126 Milan (MI) ITALY
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