Plans for ASDF 3.3

Robert Goldman rpgoldman at
Thu Apr 27 14:35:34 UTC 2017

On 4/26/17 Apr 26 -7:46 PM, Faré wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman at> wrote:
>> On 4/26/17 Apr 26 -6:33 AM, Faré wrote:
>>> What more, it was a hurdle on
>>> the road to making a future ASDF a robust system with deterministic
>>> builds.
>> I wanted to ask about this.  Right now ASDF systems are (in general)
>> partially ordered.  Is it your plan to make sure there are no
>> implementation or state dependencies in how these partial orders are
>> linearized, in order to make it deterministic?
> Well, a really deterministic variant of ASDF, if it ever happens,
> would be based on cross-compilation in separate processes, similar to
> how Lisp builds currently happen with Bazel. Handling self-extension
> and phase separation properly in this context might be "interesting".

OK, but I think that should be a different thing -- perhaps POIU version
2, rather than an ASDF version.

It's ok to adapt ASDF to support programming in the large, but not, I
think, too much at the expense of conventional, smaller projects.

At some point, probably the tool support for very large and smaller,
more conventional systems, should diverge.

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