Fwd: why is usocket.asd without an in-package or package qualifiers?

Faré fahree at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 19:08:14 UTC 2015


Robert, should we export load-asd from asdf?

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mark H. David <mhd at yv.org>
Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: why is usocket.asd without an in-package or package qualifiers?
To: Zach Beane <xach at xach.com>
Cc: usocket development <usocket-devel at common-lisp.net>


Well, ASDF doc (here:
https://common-lisp.net/project/asdf/asdf/The-defsystem-form.html) is
not that clear about this. It shows an example .asd file, which does
have an in-package, albeit to package asdf-user, and says of it:

The file starts with an in-package form for package asdf-user. Quick
summary: just do this, because it helps make interactive development
of defsystem forms behave in the same was as when these forms are
loaded by ASDF. ... The in-package form will ensure that the system
definition is read the same as within ASDF when you load it
interactively with cl:load. However, we recommend that you load .asd
files through function asdf::load-asd rather than through cl:load, in
which case this form is unnecessary.

Don't mean to hijack usocket for ASDF complaints, but shouldn't
asdf::load-asd be exported?

Thanks,
Mark


----- Original message -----
From: Zach Beane <xach at xach.com>
To: "Mark H. David" <mhd at yv.org>
Cc: usocket development <usocket-devel at common-lisp.net>
Subject: Re: why is usocket.asd without an in-package or package qualifiers?
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:54:36 -0400

ASDF establishes a particular environment when using asdf:find-system
and asdf:load-system that is not duplicated by a plain CL:LOAD. It has
always been this way. You cannot reliably use CL:LOAD to load a system
file and have things work.

Zach

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Mark H. David <mhd at yv.org> wrote:

I notices there's no in-package or qualifiers present in usocket.asd.
So you have to, it seems, do (in-package :asdf) or similar before
loading this file.
Is there any good reason for this?  I was thinking of fixing this and
doing a pull request. Anyone against?
Thanks,
Mark



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