[armedbear-devel] Fwd: Is anybody interested in jfli-abcl?
Anton Vodonosov
avodonosov at yandex.ru
Mon May 28 13:19:55 UTC 2012
28.05.2012, 17:08, "Alessio Stalla" <alessiostalla at gmail.com>:
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Anton Vodonosov <avodonosov at yandex.ru> wrote:
>> 28.05.2012, 16:22, "Anton Vodonosov" <avodonosov at yandex.ru>:
>>> If independent version of new-class is not ready, probably it's possible to
>>> deliver runtime-class a a contrib [...]
>> I've checked the ABCL sources and see that runtime-class.lisp is now
>> included into ABCL. So we don't even need to create a contrib for it.
>>
>> Could anyone help me understand the problem with new-class, why removing
>> it? Namely, when the asm.jar will be needed,
>>
>> What I understand now:
>>
>> 1. abcl-jfli function jrc calls java:jnew-runtime-class.
>> 2. java:jnew-runtime-class needs asm.jar.
> 2. is wrong. jnew-runtime-class used to require asm, was disabled, and
> was reintroduced (incomplete) without a dependency to asm and with a
> slightly different API. In other words, jrc right now is probably
> broken.
>
> To restore jrc right now, you'd need to restore runtime-class.lisp
> from version control, and bundle it in contrib under a different
> package (assuming it still works with present-day asm).
Ah I see, it's different runtime-class. Thanks for the explanation.
> That would be possible, but I object that having 2 different APIs for
> the same thing is a potential source for confusion.
Yes, but it's also the way of software evolution: we use some API,
notice it's deficiencies, deprecate it and introduce new, better
API. Let me note that it could have been called runtime-class2
to avoid confusion and compatibility issues.
Probably now, if packaging the old runtime-class as a contrib, we will
need to rename it to old-runtime-class, or even deprecated-runtime-class.
Could you explain about the asm.jar dependency in case of the
deprecated-runtime-class? Would it be a load-time dependency,
or a call-time dependency?
Best regards,
- Anton
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