From inf1045 at fh-worms.de Sat Jul 5 11:29:15 2008 From: inf1045 at fh-worms.de (LukasGiessmann) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:29:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [admin] how to get a common-lisp.net account Message-ID: <9c6e8b8838e600ab1ebd2f27171cf712.squirrel@webmailer.fh-worms.de> hello, i would like to submit a ticket to the elephant trac system. The page http://trac.common-lisp.net/elephant says the following: "Anyone can submit tickets, however you need to have a common-lisp.net account to edit the Wiki." how is it possible to get such an account? best regards lukas From ehuels at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 19:59:59 2008 From: ehuels at gmail.com (Erik Huelsmann) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:59:59 +0200 Subject: [admin] Commit rights to cl-xmpp Message-ID: Hi, The cl-xmpp project seems rather abandoned. In the last few days only, a number of people found that the code needs fixes (ofcourse, these were the same fixes for everybody). I think its BFI (Bad First Impression) for Lisp if things stay that way (the fixes have been available since December). Could you please give me commit rights to cl-xmpp so I can commit the fixes and some other changes to bring the project up-to-date, create a new release and hopefully get it back on its feet again? Thanks in advance! Bye, Erik. From erik.enge at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 01:49:38 2008 From: erik.enge at gmail.com (Erik Enge) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:49:38 -0500 Subject: [admin] Re: Commit rights to cl-xmpp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58f839b70807081849p49d404dct60ac3b78eedff8d7@mail.gmail.com> I naturally approve as I haven't touched the project in forever. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Erik Huelsmann wrote: > Hi, > > The cl-xmpp project seems rather abandoned. In the last few days only, > a number of people found that the code needs fixes (ofcourse, these > were the same fixes for everybody). I think its BFI (Bad First > Impression) for Lisp if things stay that way (the fixes have been > available since December). > > Could you please give me commit rights to cl-xmpp so I can commit the > fixes and some other changes to bring the project up-to-date, create a > new release and hopefully get it back on its feet again? > > Thanks in advance! > > Bye, > > Erik. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drewc at tech.coop Wed Jul 9 03:05:37 2008 From: drewc at tech.coop (Drew Crampsie) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:05:37 -0700 Subject: [admin] Re: Commit rights to cl-xmpp In-Reply-To: <58f839b70807081849p49d404dct60ac3b78eedff8d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <58f839b70807081849p49d404dct60ac3b78eedff8d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Adding user `ehuelsmann' to group `cl-xmpp'... Done. 2008/7/8 Erik Enge : > I naturally approve as I haven't touched the project in forever. > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Erik Huelsmann wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> The cl-xmpp project seems rather abandoned. In the last few days only, >> a number of people found that the code needs fixes (ofcourse, these >> were the same fixes for everybody). I think its BFI (Bad First >> Impression) for Lisp if things stay that way (the fixes have been >> available since December). >> >> Could you please give me commit rights to cl-xmpp so I can commit the >> fixes and some other changes to bring the project up-to-date, create a >> new release and hopefully get it back on its feet again? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Bye, >> >> Erik. > > > _______________________________________________ > admin mailing list > admin at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin > From jdunrue at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 04:21:27 2008 From: jdunrue at gmail.com (Jack Unrue) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:21:27 -0600 Subject: [admin] graphic-forms-announce and graphic-forms-devel list admin passwords Message-ID: Hi there. I am the project admin for common-lisp.net/project/graphic-forms. I currently have a spam from a non-subscriber sitting in the moderator queues for both graphic-forms-announce and graphic-forms-devel, and I recently discovered that my admin passwords for those lists are no longer accepted. And it appears that my -cvs list password is not accepted either. Ideally, I would like to have those passwords reset. But it would be fine in the short term if a kind admin would just dump those two queued messages, so that I don't get the nag email every day. My common-lisp.net username is 'junrue'. Thanks, Jack Unrue From attila.lendvai at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 08:53:55 2008 From: attila.lendvai at gmail.com (Attila Lendvai) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:53:55 +0200 Subject: [admin] darcsweb rss feed Message-ID: dear admins, could you please replace the common-lisp.ORG to cl.NET in /custom/sys/darcsweb/config.py to fix (hopefully) the darcsweb rss feeds? thanks in advance, -- attila From attila.lendvai at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 12:07:10 2008 From: attila.lendvai at gmail.com (Attila Lendvai) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:07:10 +0200 Subject: [admin] darcs on cl.net Message-ID: hi! did someone reinstall darcs recently? some time ago there was a workaround set up for pre 2.0 darcs. the binary was replaced with a script that sets umask before calling darcs. see the file darcs-script and darcs-bin below... they are the traces of the old setup. alendvai at clnet:~/dwim/public_html/darcs/eseho$ ll /usr/bin/darcs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2487276 Feb 12 2005 /usr/bin/darcs -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2487276 Feb 12 2005 /usr/bin/darcs-bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 45 Jul 6 2006 /usr/bin/darcs-script /usr/bin/darcs was a symlink pointing to /usr/bin/darcs-script, but not anymore. any thoughts? -- attila From erik.enge at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 01:57:46 2008 From: erik.enge at gmail.com (Erik Enge) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:57:46 -0500 Subject: [admin] Fwd: Removal of a message from the Toronto Lisp mailing list archive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58f839b70807241857h4fe02d9fxda09d90747993d86@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rudolf Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:43 PM Subject: Fwd: Removal of a message from the Toronto Lisp mailing list archive To: mailman-owner at common-lisp.net From: Rudolf To: mailman at common-lisp.net Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:42:19 -0400 Subject: Removal of a message from the Toronto Lisp mailing list archive Hi, someone accidently sent an email out to the mailing list: http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/toronto-lisp/2008-July/000033.html Is it possible to remove it from the archive? I'm actually the list manager for the toronto-lisp mailing list, but apparently there's no way to remove the message via the web interface. Thanks! -Rudolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nikodemus at random-state.net Fri Jul 25 15:59:11 2008 From: nikodemus at random-state.net (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:59:11 +0300 Subject: [admin] Fwd: Removal of a message from the Toronto Lisp mailing list archive In-Reply-To: <58f839b70807241857h4fe02d9fxda09d90747993d86@mail.gmail.com> References: <58f839b70807241857h4fe02d9fxda09d90747993d86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <633d72b0807250859g4b25077cm58dccab5d09e4c9e@mail.gmail.com> > From: Rudolf > To: mailman at common-lisp.net > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:42:19 -0400 > Subject: Removal of a message from the Toronto Lisp mailing list archive > Hi, someone accidently sent an email out to the mailing list: --snip-- > > Is it possible to remove it from the archive? I'm actually the list > manager for the toronto-lisp mailing list, but apparently there's no > way to remove the message via the web interface. Last time I looked at doing something like this, IIRC what I discovered was that you can do it, but it is a pain: 1. Stop accepting mail for the list. 2. Cut out the offending bit from the mbox file. 3. Nuke and regenerate the archives. 4. Start accepting mail for the list. 1 and 4 are needed so that you don't accidentally lose incoming messages while you're hacking the mbox file. You could also just take that risk, or carefully do a destructive edit, replacing the contents of the message with the Xs or something -- but that is far to fiddly to my mind. In other words, to the best of my knowledge there is no way to keep a message in the mbox, but nuke it from the archives. Unless I am mistaken on this count, in my opinion cleaning up trivial mistake-emails like this is not worth the trouble. Cheers, -- Nikodemus From elliottslaughter at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 04:27:26 2008 From: elliottslaughter at gmail.com (Elliott Slaughter) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:27:26 -0700 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> Message-ID: <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. Could you explain to me how I can set up personal repositories on common-lisp.net? On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Gary King wrote: > Hi Elliot, > You should be ready to roll. > > On May 2, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Elliott Slaughter wrote: > > Hi, > > My name is Elliott Slaughter, and I would like a account on common-lisp.net > for the purpose of working on SBCL Windows threading for Google's Summer of > Code. > > I don't believe I require project hosting, because for the most part, I > intend to use existing SBCL resources. However, I would like personal > repository for my work on SBCL. My understanding is that I don't need actual > project hosting, that a user account will be sufficient to get hosting for a > repository. > > Thank you for your time. > > Other information you may want: > > Full name: Elliott Slaughter. > > Public key: > ---- BEGIN SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ---- > Comment: "rsa-key-20080502" > AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABJQAAAIByGWa4cxUcKXAC/1rlS4LlW/KrkrI7JZx/RY/d > jRN+s3Sozeqy8r/unhbONPXikL6Frq2aqtEOLk2JrLzf0VznC4vAksKahF4VMj33 > KinySulYURLO/Z+7uAzK546jbVPnSUWN+QPNSYEzAG2zQ7x6/uOX1QpvmzId0a/0 > dlyTBQ== > ---- END SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ---- > > Description of project: > An abstract for the project can be found at > http://code.google.com/soc/2008/lispnyc/appinfo.html?csaid=E2FD52402672134E > . > > -- > Elliott Slaughter > > "Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere." - Frank > Herbert > _______________________________________________ > admin mailing list > admin at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin > > -- > Gary Warren King, metabang.com > Cell: (413) 559 8738 > Fax: (206) 338-4052 > gwkkwg on Skype * garethsan on AIM > > > > -- Elliott Slaughter "Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere." - Frank Herbert From gwking at metabang.com Sun Jul 27 21:35:50 2008 From: gwking at metabang.com (Gary King) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:35:50 -0400 Subject: [admin] darcsweb rss feed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11805046-8A05-46E5-B356-5A4360107F8E@metabang.com> hi Attila, I think this is fixed; sorry for the delay. On Jul 21, 2008, at 4:53 AM, Attila Lendvai wrote: > dear admins, > > could you please replace the common-lisp.ORG to cl.NET in > /custom/sys/darcsweb/config.py to fix (hopefully) the darcsweb rss > feeds? > > thanks in advance, > > -- > attila > _______________________________________________ > admin mailing list > admin at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin -- Gary Warren King, metabang.com Cell: (413) 559 8738 Fax: (206) 338-4052 gwkkwg on Skype * garethsan on AIM From gwking at metabang.com Sun Jul 27 21:38:41 2008 From: gwking at metabang.com (Gary King) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:38:41 -0400 Subject: [admin] graphic-forms-announce and graphic-forms-devel list admin passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66627972-0846-42A4-B312-CDD3DC412D44@metabang.com> Hi Jack, My apologies if this feel between the cracks. Do you still need your passwords reset? thanks, On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:21 AM, Jack Unrue wrote: > Hi there. I am the project admin for > common-lisp.net/project/graphic-forms. I currently > have a spam from a non-subscriber sitting in the moderator queues > for both > graphic-forms-announce and graphic-forms-devel, and I recently > discovered that > my admin passwords for those lists are no longer accepted. And it > appears that > my -cvs list password is not accepted either. > > Ideally, I would like to have those passwords reset. But it would be > fine in the > short term if a kind admin would just dump those two queued > messages, so that > I don't get the nag email every day. > > My common-lisp.net username is 'junrue'. > > Thanks, > Jack Unrue > _______________________________________________ > admin mailing list > admin at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin -- Gary Warren King, metabang.com Cell: (413) 559 8738 Fax: (206) 338-4052 gwkkwg on Skype * garethsan on AIM From gwking at metabang.com Sun Jul 27 21:39:56 2008 From: gwking at metabang.com (Gary King) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:39:56 -0400 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> You have ssh access to your account so your should be able to do "anything" (within some definition of reason) that you need to do. We support cvs, svn, git, darcs and maybe other stuff too! Let me know if you have more questions Also, sorry for the delay... On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Elliott Slaughter wrote: > Thanks. Could you explain to me how I can set up personal repositories > on common-lisp.net? > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Gary King wrote: >> Hi Elliot, >> You should be ready to roll. >> >> On May 2, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Elliott Slaughter wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> My name is Elliott Slaughter, and I would like a account on common- >> lisp.net >> for the purpose of working on SBCL Windows threading for Google's >> Summer of >> Code. >> >> I don't believe I require project hosting, because for the most >> part, I >> intend to use existing SBCL resources. However, I would like personal >> repository for my work on SBCL. My understanding is that I don't >> need actual >> project hosting, that a user account will be sufficient to get >> hosting for a >> repository. >> >> Thank you for your time. >> >> Other information you may want: >> >> Full name: Elliott Slaughter. >> >> Public key: >> ---- BEGIN SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ---- >> Comment: "rsa-key-20080502" >> AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABJQAAAIByGWa4cxUcKXAC/1rlS4LlW/KrkrI7JZx/RY/d >> jRN+s3Sozeqy8r/unhbONPXikL6Frq2aqtEOLk2JrLzf0VznC4vAksKahF4VMj33 >> KinySulYURLO/Z+7uAzK546jbVPnSUWN+QPNSYEzAG2zQ7x6/uOX1QpvmzId0a/0 >> dlyTBQ== >> ---- END SSH2 PUBLIC KEY ---- >> >> Description of project: >> An abstract for the project can be found at >> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/lispnyc/appinfo.html?csaid=E2FD52402672134E >> . >> >> -- >> Elliott Slaughter >> >> "Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere." - >> Frank >> Herbert >> _______________________________________________ >> admin mailing list >> admin at common-lisp.net >> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin >> >> -- >> Gary Warren King, metabang.com >> Cell: (413) 559 8738 >> Fax: (206) 338-4052 >> gwkkwg on Skype * garethsan on AIM >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Elliott Slaughter > > "Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere." - > Frank Herbert -- Gary Warren King, metabang.com Cell: (413) 559 8738 Fax: (206) 338-4052 gwkkwg on Skype * garethsan on AIM From root at common-lisp.net Sun Jul 27 21:41:24 2008 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [admin] added trivial-http; owned by gking Message-ID: <20080727214124.0CC927615E@common-lisp.net> Add successful at 2008.07.27.17.41. From gwking at metabang.com Sun Jul 27 21:42:28 2008 From: gwking at metabang.com (Gary King) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:42:28 -0400 Subject: [admin] darcs on cl.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Attila, I know that Drew has been migrating to a new server and this may be what changed. If I understand you correctly, we need to restore /usr/ bin/darcs so that it is a symlink to /usr/bin/darcs-bin. Is that right? On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Attila Lendvai wrote: > hi! > > did someone reinstall darcs recently? some time ago there was a > workaround set up for pre 2.0 darcs. the binary was replaced with a > script that sets umask before calling darcs. see the file darcs-script > and darcs-bin below... they are the traces of the old setup. > > alendvai at clnet:~/dwim/public_html/darcs/eseho$ ll /usr/bin/darcs* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2487276 Feb 12 2005 /usr/bin/darcs > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2487276 Feb 12 2005 /usr/bin/darcs-bin > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 45 Jul 6 2006 /usr/bin/darcs-script > > /usr/bin/darcs was a symlink pointing to /usr/bin/darcs-script, but > not anymore. any thoughts? > > -- > attila > _______________________________________________ > admin mailing list > admin at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin -- Gary Warren King, metabang.com Cell: (413) 559 8738 Fax: (206) 338-4052 gwkkwg on Skype * garethsan on AIM From attila.lendvai at gmail.com Sun Jul 27 22:55:06 2008 From: attila.lendvai at gmail.com (Attila Lendvai) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:55:06 +0900 Subject: [admin] darcs on cl.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Hi Attila, hi Gary, > I know that Drew has been migrating to a new server and this may be what > changed. If I understand you correctly, we need to restore /usr/bin/darcs so > that it is a symlink to /usr/bin/darcs-bin. Is that right? almost. ln -s darcs-script darcs this way, when pushing, the script is called by the client side darcs, which first sets the umask and only after that calls darcs-bin. i'm not sure if this is still needed, recent darcs versions may have a fix for that. without this if you push a patch that creates a new file or directory, then other comitters won't be able to push anything that would alter the same file until issuing a chmod -R g+w by the one who originally pushed the patch that created the file. also note that there may be other alternatives to set the effective umask a binary will run with, but i'm no linux guru. thanks for looking into this! -- attila From elliottslaughter at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 16:27:00 2008 From: elliottslaughter at gmail.com (Elliott Slaughter) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:27:00 -0700 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> Message-ID: <42c0ab790807280927l670b2ecoa9a9fb8f7885df91@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Gary King wrote: > You have ssh access to your account so your should be able to do "anything" > (within some definition of reason) that you need to do. We support cvs, svn, > git, darcs and maybe other stuff too! > > Let me know if you have more questions Thanks! Also, I'm wondering what licensing requirements common-lisp.net puts on projects its hosts. If I create a repository with my account, will that be public to the internet? If it is, then I assume I need some sort of license (even if I don't think my project is far enough along that anyone else would want to contribute)... so what would you recommend? Since I happen know you work for Franz as well, could you tell me if there are any additional licensing constraints when working on a project which happens to only run on ACL? That is, the current iteration of my project uses AllegroCache and thus can't run on any other Lisp system. Does this influence what licenses I can use with my project? Thanks again. -- Elliott Slaughter "Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere." - Frank Herbert From leslie.polzer at gmx.net Mon Jul 28 17:13:34 2008 From: leslie.polzer at gmx.net (Leslie P. Polzer) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:13:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [admin] hg support Message-ID: <62048.88.73.250.177.1217265214.squirrel@mail.stardawn.org> Hi, we at cl-weblocks would like to use Mercurial for our unstable repository. Could you install the latest (1.0.1) package for us? Thanks! Leslie -- LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/polzer Blog: http://blog.viridian-project.de/ From nikodemus at random-state.net Tue Jul 29 08:23:28 2008 From: nikodemus at random-state.net (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:23:28 +0300 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <42c0ab790807280927l670b2ecoa9a9fb8f7885df91@mail.gmail.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807280927l670b2ecoa9a9fb8f7885df91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <633d72b0807290123v5144d3e9je10c0120f6782bb7@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Elliott Slaughter wrote: > Also, I'm wondering what licensing requirements common-lisp.net puts > on projects its hosts. If I create a repository with my account, will > that be public to the internet? If it is, then I assume I need some > sort of license (even if I don't think my project is far enough along > that anyone else would want to contribute)... so what would you > recommend? > > Since I happen know you work for Franz as well, could you tell me if > there are any additional licensing constraints when working on a > project which happens to only run on ACL? That is, the current > iteration of my project uses AllegroCache and thus can't run on any > other Lisp system. Does this influence what licenses I can use with my > project? Huh, it seems licence requirements have vanished from the clnet website -- or maybe they never ended up there in the first place, not sure. At any rate, Common-Lisp.net has since it's inception been open to all open source / free software projects building on Common Lisp. No implemention specific restrictions. That said, clnet is for *public* code. If you use clnet to store your personal code without releasing it into the open, that's not in the spirit of the service provided. My *biased* recommendation is the MIT licence , but whatever suits *your* needs is fine: in the absence of a public notice on the clnet site, assume that any license which fulfills DFSG is fine. Cheers, -- Nikodemus, not a clnet admin anymore, but I still think I know this stuff well enough From nikodemus at random-state.net Wed Jul 30 16:33:49 2008 From: nikodemus at random-state.net (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:33:49 +0300 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <42c0ab790807291650j788f86f6wadd5a98895651b65@mail.gmail.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807280927l670b2ecoa9a9fb8f7885df91@mail.gmail.com> <633d72b0807290123v5144d3e9je10c0120f6782bb7@mail.gmail.com> <42c0ab790807291650j788f86f6wadd5a98895651b65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <633d72b0807300933l4b9af6a5nbe240ce5fe10ca6e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:50 AM, Elliott Slaughter wrote: >> My *biased* recommendation is the MIT licence >> , but whatever >> suits *your* needs is fine: in the absence of a public notice on the >> clnet site, assume that any license which fulfills DFSG >> is fine. > > Thanks for the advice. Any particular reason you like the MIT license? > (I know MIT is less restrictive than the GPL, but I really don't know > much more than that.) MIT is essentially the same as releasing things into public domain, in the sense that it does not restrict users ability to do anything they want with the code -- including stealing it. I am not interested in telling people what they are and are not allowed to do. GPL restricts users ability to use code in circumstances where releasing the sources of the aggregate is not a possibility. Also: the moment you accept a GPL licenced *contribution* you cannot relicence without getting agreement from all contributors. Hence, GPL projects are almost never relicenced -- and almost always it happens, it can be asked if the relicencing was legally sound: Joe Random Hacker who contributed a few patched two years back might not have been consulted. Itent of LGPL is nice: don't steal this code, but it won't contaminate anything. Unfortunately LGPL has plenty of language that doesn't make sense for Lisp. If you want LGPL like effect, use GPL plus the classpath exception (or something like that), and hope your and your users lawyers agree. (All GPL and LGPL comments above are re. version 2 -- I am not familiar with the new versions.) Cheers, -- Nikodemus From nikodemus at random-state.net Thu Jul 31 06:04:21 2008 From: nikodemus at random-state.net (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:04:21 +0300 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <42c0ab790807301216h35bde3dav227dd2eef4a5d40e@mail.gmail.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807280927l670b2ecoa9a9fb8f7885df91@mail.gmail.com> <633d72b0807290123v5144d3e9je10c0120f6782bb7@mail.gmail.com> <42c0ab790807291650j788f86f6wadd5a98895651b65@mail.gmail.com> <633d72b0807300933l4b9af6a5nbe240ce5fe10ca6e@mail.gmail.com> <42c0ab790807301216h35bde3dav227dd2eef4a5d40e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <633d72b0807302304x302e470ci17da56ac9438baee@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Elliott Slaughter wrote: >> sense for Lisp. If you want LGPL like effect, use GPL plus the >> classpath exception (or something like that), and hope your and your >> users lawyers agree. > > Doesn't the LLGPL (http://opensource.franz.com/preamble.html) deal > with this (at least to some extent)? Something like that, yes. (Some people claim it just muddies the water further, esp. given the escape clause for adding proprietary code to the library.) I still prefer public domain / MIT. Giving things away is good for the soul. Cheers, -- Nikodemus From elliottslaughter at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 23:46:33 2008 From: elliottslaughter at gmail.com (Elliott Slaughter) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:46:33 -0700 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> Message-ID: <42c0ab790807291646n50fbda9bq53c2d1d9b1214150@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Gary King wrote: > You have ssh access to your account so your should be able to do "anything" > (within some definition of reason) that you need to do. We support cvs, svn, > git, darcs and maybe other stuff too! How do I make ssh work with gpg keys? The server keeps using keyboard-interactive authentication and I assume that isn't how it is supposed to work. And for that matter, what is my user name? (I don't remember either specifying or being told what it was.) -- Elliott Slaughter "Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere." - Frank Herbert From elliottslaughter at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 23:50:11 2008 From: elliottslaughter at gmail.com (Elliott Slaughter) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:50:11 -0700 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <633d72b0807290123v5144d3e9je10c0120f6782bb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807280927l670b2ecoa9a9fb8f7885df91@mail.gmail.com> <633d72b0807290123v5144d3e9je10c0120f6782bb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42c0ab790807291650j788f86f6wadd5a98895651b65@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Elliott Slaughter > wrote: > > Huh, it seems licence requirements have vanished from the clnet > website -- or maybe they never ended up there in the first place, not > sure. > > At any rate, Common-Lisp.net has since it's inception been open to all > open source / free software projects building on Common Lisp. No > implemention specific restrictions. That said, clnet is for *public* > code. If you use clnet to store your personal code without releasing > it into the open, that's not in the spirit of the service provided. Thought so, just making sure :-) > My *biased* recommendation is the MIT licence > , but whatever > suits *your* needs is fine: in the absence of a public notice on the > clnet site, assume that any license which fulfills DFSG > is fine. Thanks for the advice. Any particular reason you like the MIT license? (I know MIT is less restrictive than the GPL, but I really don't know much more than that.) -- Elliott Slaughter "Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere." - Frank Herbert From elliottslaughter at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 19:16:20 2008 From: elliottslaughter at gmail.com (Elliott Slaughter) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:16:20 -0700 Subject: [admin] Account Request In-Reply-To: <633d72b0807300933l4b9af6a5nbe240ce5fe10ca6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <42c0ab790805022016p5b6307cnfba4b86c2cf70c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3FE86BE4-1289-4362-8DFE-F218DCDC9182@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807202127v525ee7f5h22fafb6bb9951fc@mail.gmail.com> <6F57AECD-CB31-4EBF-A08D-63C219A7CA32@metabang.com> <42c0ab790807280927l670b2ecoa9a9fb8f7885df91@mail.gmail.com> <633d72b0807290123v5144d3e9je10c0120f6782bb7@mail.gmail.com> <42c0ab790807291650j788f86f6wadd5a98895651b65@mail.gmail.com> <633d72b0807300933l4b9af6a5nbe240ce5fe10ca6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42c0ab790807301216h35bde3dav227dd2eef4a5d40e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote: > > Itent of LGPL is nice: don't steal this code, but it won't contaminate > anything. Unfortunately LGPL has plenty of language that doesn't make > sense for Lisp. If you want LGPL like effect, use GPL plus the > classpath exception (or something like that), and hope your and your > users lawyers agree. Doesn't the LLGPL (http://opensource.franz.com/preamble.html) deal with this (at least to some extent)? -- Elliott Slaughter "Any road followed precisely to its end leads precisely nowhere." - Frank Herbert