From hans at huebner.org  Thu Nov  1 12:48:12 2007
From: hans at huebner.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hans_H=FCbner?=)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:48:12 +0100
Subject: [admin] Disk space problem on common-lisp.net root fs
Message-ID: <fd2982320711010548y83d47d6ledb69b1b08950505@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

the root file system on common-lisp.net keeps filling up since the
beginning of the week.  Can you please find out what is going on and
fix the problem?  The lisppaste service does not run because of this.
People cannot commit, too.

Thanks,
Hans


From root at common-lisp.net  Fri Nov  2 18:01:42 2007
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Fri,  2 Nov 2007 13:01:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [admin] added cl-cont; owned by sakhmechet
Message-ID: <20071102180142.7C1B75310D@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2007.11.02.13.01.


From edi at agharta.de  Sun Nov  4 19:56:06 2007
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:56:06 +0100
Subject: [admin] Mailing list problems
Message-ID: <u7ikx6azt.fsf@agharta.de>

Hi Erik,

It seems there are problems with Mailman on common-lisp.net.  I sent
emails to, e.g., tbnl-devel which were accepted by the mail server but
were never forwarded to list members.  I've heard about similar
problems from other users.  See also here:

  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/faa964a13569bb3c

I understand that you don't really have the time to maintain
common-lisp.net anymore, but is there a chance that you can look into
this?

Thanks,
Edi.


From erik.enge at gmail.com  Sun Nov  4 20:28:45 2007
From: erik.enge at gmail.com (Erik Enge)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:28:45 -0500
Subject: [admin] Re: Mailing list problems
In-Reply-To: <u7ikx6azt.fsf@agharta.de>
References: <u7ikx6azt.fsf@agharta.de>
Message-ID: <58f839b70711041228w24dee6abg4fe68e3ecce273a9@mail.gmail.com>

Edi,

Unfortunately I don't have time to look into this.  However, Drew
Crampsie of Tech Coop has taken over the day-to-day management of
common-lisp.net and should be able to investigate.

Thanks,
Erik.

On 11/4/07, Edi Weitz <edi at agharta.de> wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>
> It seems there are problems with Mailman on common-lisp.net.  I sent
> emails to, e.g., tbnl-devel which were accepted by the mail server but
> were never forwarded to list members.  I've heard about similar
> problems from other users.  See also here:
>
>   http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/faa964a13569bb3c
>
> I understand that you don't really have the time to maintain
> common-lisp.net anymore, but is there a chance that you can look into
> this?
>
> Thanks,
> Edi.
>


From edi at agharta.de  Sun Nov  4 20:32:07 2007
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:32:07 +0100
Subject: [admin] Re: Mailing list problems
In-Reply-To: <58f839b70711041228w24dee6abg4fe68e3ecce273a9@mail.gmail.com>
	(Erik Enge's message of "Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:28:45 -0500")
References: <u7ikx6azt.fsf@agharta.de>
	<58f839b70711041228w24dee6abg4fe68e3ecce273a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <utzo14urc.fsf@agharta.de>

On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:28:45 -0500, "Erik Enge" <erik.enge at gmail.com> wrote:

> However, Drew Crampsie of Tech Coop has taken over the day-to-day
> management of common-lisp.net and should be able to investigate.

Ah, good, thanks for the info.


From raymond.toy at ericsson.com  Mon Nov  5 17:55:45 2007
From: raymond.toy at ericsson.com (Raymond Toy RT/EUS)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:55:45 -0500
Subject: [admin] Admin help and request
Message-ID: <sxdtzo0fufy.fsf@rtp.ericsson.se>


Eric (or whoever the admin is these days),

I saw that you're too busy these days to really manage c-l.net.

I can offer some help.  I can't do all of the admin stuff, but I can
do some of it.

And, on a different note, I've forgotten the oct-cvs mailing-list
admin password.  I thought I saved every e-mail about the project, but
I can't find the e-mail about the oct-cvs mailing list admin
password.  What do I need to do to recover that?  Or can you create a
new one for me?  

Thanks,

Ray


From root at common-lisp.net  Mon Nov  5 23:09:32 2007
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Mon,  5 Nov 2007 18:09:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [admin] added umpa-lumpa; owned by tstuij
Message-ID: <20071105230932.D5BE25D171@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2007.11.05.18.09.


From drewc at tech.coop  Mon Nov  5 23:16:15 2007
From: drewc at tech.coop (Drew Crampsie)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:16:15 -0800
Subject: [admin] test test test
Message-ID: <472FA43F.8050202@tech.coop>

You betcha! just testing the mailman.

drewc


From alex.borshik at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 11:23:36 2007
From: alex.borshik at gmail.com (Alex Borshik)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:23:36 +0000
Subject: [admin] Trac server down.
Message-ID: <91a3409d0711020423q1f1e7f01t3a8e09aa0b69a87f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am getting a 502 error when I try to hit trac.common-lisp.net - I
guess that the trac daemon is  dead.

Thanks
Alex


From dabittweiler at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 18:03:41 2007
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:03:41 -0800
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From ivan4th at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 21:27:22 2007
From: ivan4th at gmail.com (Ivan Shvedunov)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:22 +0300
Subject: [admin] project hosting request: Plexippus XPath
Message-ID: <4d93c5bf0711121327s7e89ce9bt8f144c432296e941@mail.gmail.com>

  Hi.

  I'd like to request hosting for Plexippus XPath (plexippus-xpath)
project, an effort by me and David Lichteblau (maintainer of Closure
XML) to build a Common Lisp XPath engine for use with CXML and other
Lisp XML representations that later will be used to implement an XSLT
engine.

  Maintainers for the project are:
  - me -- Ivan Shvedunov <ivan4th at gmail.com> -- gpg public key attached
  - David Lichteblau <david at lichteblau.com>

  The project will be released under an X11-style license.
  We would like to use darcs for this project.

  Thanks in advance,
    Ivan
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From peter.eddy at gmail.com  Thu Nov 15 17:28:15 2007
From: peter.eddy at gmail.com (Peter Eddy)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:28:15 -0500
Subject: [admin] Project hosting request: clouchdb
Message-ID: <5aea26870711150928k53714b37kc65346e8477b112b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I would like to request hosting for a new open source Lisp
project. The project is a Common Lisp interface to the CouchDB
database (http://couchdb.org).

Though CouchDB is accessed via a simple REST (HTTP) API, I think a
certain amount of additional value can be provided by a library of
Lisp functions which encapsulate the database API. For example, this
project provides a translation of data into and out of CouchDB's
wire data representation (Json strings), It is also hoped that this
project will provide some degree of isolation from CouchDB API
changes.

The current state of the code is functional, but the API will likely
change for the following reasons: 1) CouchDB itself is in a pre-alpha,
version 0.7-ish, state and not yet feature complete. 2) CouchDB is,
for me at least, a new kind of database. I expect my understanding of
how it is used to evolve as I become more familiar with it, and I hope
to reflect any new insight in the Lisp API, when appropriate.

Project Information
-------------------

  My Name: Peter Eddy
  GPG Key: attached
  Project Name: clouchdb
  Libraries Used: Drakma, cl-json(json), parenscript
  License: LLGPL

  Currently no one else is involved in this project.

Thank you!

- Peter

P.S. I know, the name is lousy :)
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From root at common-lisp.net  Fri Nov 16 23:09:26 2007
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:09:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [admin] added plexippus-xpath; owned by ishvedunov
Message-ID: <20071116230926.3C1411F012@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2007.11.16.18.09.


From root at common-lisp.net  Tue Nov 20 03:57:03 2007
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:57:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [admin] added clouchdb; owned by peddy
Message-ID: <20071120035703.9425064042@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2007.11.19.22.57.


From jcollins at cs.umn.edu  Mon Nov 19 17:46:41 2007
From: jcollins at cs.umn.edu (John Collins)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:46:41 -0600
Subject: [admin] Site down?
Message-ID: <4741CC01.3060402@cs.umn.edu>

As far as I can tell, the only available documentation for cmucl is on 
your site. Is the outage long-term, or should I just be patient. Thanks 
much.

John Collins
University of Minnesota
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From peter.eddy at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 00:40:56 2007
From: peter.eddy at gmail.com (Peter Eddy)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:40:56 -0500
Subject: [admin] thanks, and question regarding ssh access
Message-ID: <5aea26870711201640r5abc744fw2362e4f48c2ac7c3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

First, thank you for approving my project: clouchdb, I'm eager to get
everything set up.

Regarding ssh access, I received passwords for the project email
lists, but not for ssh access. Am I supposed to use my gpg key for ssh
authentication, or should I have received ssh username/password
information as well? I didn't see any information about what to expect
in this regard in project info area of common-lisp.net.

thanks, and I don't mean to rush anybody, I know this service is lower priority.

- Peter Eddy


From heller at common-lisp.net  Fri Nov 23 20:46:14 2007
From: heller at common-lisp.net (Helmut Eller)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:46:14 +0100
Subject: [admin] Commit rights for SLIME
Message-ID: <m2pry03d2h.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Dear Common-Lisp.net Admins, 

could you give Geo Carncross <geocar at gmail.com> an account and add it
to the slime group?

Thanks.

Helmut.
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From ivan4th at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 21:17:55 2007
From: ivan4th at gmail.com (Ivan Shvedunov)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:17:55 +0300
Subject: [admin] plexippus-xpath
Message-ID: <4d93c5bf0711251317r2dee72eav48b1e5fae3a75e74@mail.gmail.com>

  Hi.
  I've requested hosting for Plexippus XPath project some time ago.
  Thank you for registering the project.
  But what login info should be used to access it? Maybe I should send
you my SSH public key?..

  Thank you,
    Ivan


From drewc at tech.coop  Tue Nov 27 23:02:31 2007
From: drewc at tech.coop (Drew Crampsie)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:02:31 -0800
Subject: [admin] Commit rights for SLIME
In-Reply-To: <m2pry03d2h.fsf@common-lisp.net>
References: <m2pry03d2h.fsf@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <474CA207.4090507@tech.coop>

Helmut Eller wrote:
> Dear Common-Lisp.net Admins, 
> 
> could you give Geo Carncross <geocar at gmail.com> an account and add it
> to the slime group?

I'll need his GPG key.

Cheers,

drewc
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Helmut.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> admin mailing list
> admin at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin



From brad at sankatygroup.com  Tue Nov 27 23:35:35 2007
From: brad at sankatygroup.com (Brad Anderson)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:35:35 -0600
Subject: [admin] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: 1 cl-xml-ticket moderator request(s)
	waiting]]
Message-ID: <474CA9C7.1030805@sankatygroup.com>

Hi,

Erik Enge thought I should forward this to you to see if you can handle 
it.  I am not sure I ever had a mailman admin password, so I could 
moderate this Trac ticket away.  It's clearly spam. Erik had done these 
things for me in the past.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Cheers,
BA

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [Fwd: 1 cl-xml-ticket moderator request(s) waiting]
Date: 	Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:08:37 -0500
From: 	Erik Enge <erik.enge at gmail.com>
To: 	Brad Anderson <brad at sankatygroup.com>
References: 	<4725E086.7090205 at sankatygroup.com>



Gosh, talk about taking forever to get back to you.

Are you still getting that email?  Please email admin@ - I no longer
administrate common-lisp.net due to work commitments.


Thanks,
Erik.

On Oct 29, 2007 8:30 AM, Brad Anderson <brad at sankatygroup.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi Erik,
>
>  Getting this email every day, and I cannot recall my mailman password for
> the mailing lists.  Can you zap it for me?
>
>  Cheers,
>  BA
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
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>  To: cl-xml-ticket-owner at common-lisp.net
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>  Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:02:18 -0500
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>  Sender: mailman-bounces at common-lisp.net
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>
>  The cl-xml-ticket at common-lisp.net mailing list has 1 request(s)
> waiting for your consideration at:
>
>  http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb/cl-xml-ticket
>
> Please attend to this at your earliest convenience. This notice of
> pending requests, if any, will be sent out daily.
>
>
> Pending posts:
> From: gthie_h at yahoo.com on Fri Oct 12 14:28:47 2007
> Subject: [SPAM] MISS MISS GEORGINA HANS
> Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list
>
>

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From geocar at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 23:23:10 2007
From: geocar at gmail.com (Geo Carncross)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:23:10 -0500
Subject: [admin] Commit rights for SLIME
In-Reply-To: <474CA207.4090507@tech.coop>
References: <m2pry03d2h.fsf@common-lisp.net> <474CA207.4090507@tech.coop>
Message-ID: <527511140711271523s1ae89f7cscf26673ae6ae8604@mail.gmail.com>

On Nov 27, 2007 6:02 PM, Drew Crampsie <drewc at tech.coop> wrote:
> Helmut Eller wrote:
> > Dear Common-Lisp.net Admins,
> >
> > could you give Geo Carncross <geocar at gmail.com> an account and add it
> > to the slime group?
>
> I'll need his GPG key.

You can obtain my GPG key from the following sources:

http://geocar.googlepages.com/gpg-public-key.asc
https://internetconnection.net/geocar.asc

They are for geocar at internetconnection.net which is my work address.


From dlw at alum.mit.edu  Thu Nov 29 03:25:25 2007
From: dlw at alum.mit.edu (Daniel Weinreb)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:25:25 -0500
Subject: [admin] I'd like to host a paper on your web site
Message-ID: <474E3125.9010907@alum.mit.edu>

Hi.  My name is Dan Weinreb. I was one of the co-designers of Common Lisp,
and co-founders of Symbolics.

I am almost finished writing a paper called "Common Lisp Implementations:
A Survey".  I'd like to find a home for it on the web so that people can
read it.

Would it be possible to put it on your web site?

Below, I have included the beginning of the paper so you can see what
kind of thing it is.  The text below is in "REST"; it will be automatically
translated into HTML.

Thank you.

-- Dan Weinreb (dlw at alum.mit.edu)

-----------------------------

=====================================
Common Lisp Implementations: A Survey
=====================================

by Daniel Weinreb (dlw at alum.mit.edu)

Version 1

There has been a new wave of interest in Common Lisp over the last few
years.  This paper is a November, 2007 survey of Common Lisp
implementations that are currently being actively maintained.  It also
provides references to writings about why Lisp is interesting and
important, Lisp textbooks, and useful Lisp resources including
repositories of available libraries.  I hope it will help you find the
right implementation for your project or product.

How did I pick the implementations to include in the survey?  Research
on the Internet showed that of all the implementations, some were
full-fledged in their time, but have been abandoned for one reason or
another, and some don't really count as being the Common Lisp dialect.

There are ten real currently-maintained implementations.  I judged
this by seeing which implementations were currently being supported by
prominent libraries and tools, by seeing whether there was active
mail/news/etc. traffic about the implementation, by searching the web
and asking around.  Obviously this was something of a judgement call
on my part.  If I omitted any, it was certainly not on purpose.
Please let me know if there are others.

I did not run the implementations.  I did not do any benchmark
(performance) comparisons of runtime or compiler speed, and you'll
find little in this paper about performance.  I did not attempt to
independently verify the answers to the survey.  No organization
endorses this paper.  In particular, the web site on which you found
this paper does not endorse it and bears no resposibility for its
contents.  I feel very confident that everybody who responded to the
survey did so in good faith.  Any errors are entirely my fault.
Please send corrections to me.

This survey only covers implementations of the Common Lisp dialect
(ANSI Standard X3J13), not any other Lisp dialects, nor Scheme.  The
primary design work for the initial Common Lisp was mainly 1982, with
the ANSI X3J13 standard following mainly in 1994, roughly speaking.
Guy L. Steele Jr. was the editor of the initial specification.  He,
Dave Moon, Richard Gabriel, Scott Fahlman, and I were the primary
designers, although of course the design drew very heavily on
preceeding dialects.  Papers about the history of Common Lisp are
referenced below (see "Resources").

In my opinion, having multiple supported implementations of a
language, rather than merely one canonical implementation, is a sign
of a robust and vibrant language.  There are many Java implementations
(e.g. JRockit), many Python implementations (JPython, IronPython), and
so on.  These Common Lisp implementations do a very good job of
meeting the official X3J13 language standard, and it's very easy,
often no work at all, to make an application developed in one run in
another if you stay within the defined language.

These are the implementations, in alphabetical order:

+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  Name          | a.k.a.  | License    | Platforms                  |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  Allegro CL    |         | Commercial | Linux, Unix, Mac, Windows  |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  Armed Bear CL | ABCL    | GPL        | Linux, Unix, Mac, Windows  |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  CMU CL        | CMUCL   | Open       | Linux, Unix, Mac           |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  Clozure CL    | OpenMCL | License    | Linux, Unix, Mac           |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  Corman CL     |         | Commercial | Windows                    |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  Embedded CL   | ECL     | LGPL       | Linux, Unix, Mac, Windows  |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  GNU clisp     | CLISP   | GPL        | Linux, Unix, Mac, Windows  |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  LispWorks     |         | Commercial |                            |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  Scieneer CL   | SCL     | License    | Linux, Unix                |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+
|  Steel Bank CL | SBCL    | License    | Linux, Unix, Mac           |
+----------------+---------+------------+----------------------------+

My deepest thanks to everyone who responded to the survey:

* Allegro CL: Kevin Layer
* Armed Bear CL: Peter Graves
* CMU CL: Raymond Toy
* Clozure CL: Andrew Shalit
* Embedded CL: Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll
* GNU clisp: Sam Steingold
* LispWorks: Dave Fox
* Scieneer CL: Douglas Crosher
* Steel Bank CL: Nikodemus Siivola

Thanks to Bruce Tate for permission to quote his paper.  Special
thanks to Pascal Costanza of Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Brussels,
Belgium, for all his wise advice and other invaluable help.

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