From edi at agharta.de Mon Jan 3 17:56:15 2005 From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:56:15 +0100 Subject: [admin] CVS lists Message-ID: Hi! Are the xxx-cvs mailing lists set up to get CVS messages automatically or are they just named like that and not different from other mailing lists? I ask because I've just imported the RDNZL project into the c-l.net repository but there's no message at . How do I configure this list to send messages whenever the CVS repository changes? Thanks, Edi. From mmommer at common-lisp.net Wed Jan 5 17:15:25 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:15:25 +0100 Subject: [admin] CVS lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Edi Weitz writes: > Hi! > > Are the xxx-cvs mailing lists set up to get CVS messages automatically > or are they just named like that and not different from other mailing > lists? I ask because I've just imported the RDNZL project into the > c-l.net repository but there's no message at > > . > > How do I configure this list to send messages whenever the CVS > repository changes? Good question, actually; I don't know what is happening there. It should be automatically configured for this. I'll look into it. Regards, Mario. From mmommer at common-lisp.net Wed Jan 5 17:28:13 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:28:13 +0100 Subject: [admin] Project listings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Edi Weitz writes: > I have two corrections for the project listings at > > : > > 1. RDNZL is listed under "Graphics" but should be under "Interfacing." > > 2. TBNL's description says it's "based on mod_lisp and cl-modlisp." My > fault, that should be "based on mod_lisp and KMRCL." Ok. Corrected! Regards, Mario. From mmommer at common-lisp.net Thu Jan 6 10:48:26 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:48:26 +0100 Subject: [admin] CVS lists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Edi Weitz writes: > Are the xxx-cvs mailing lists set up to get CVS messages automatically > or are they just named like that and not different from other mailing > lists? I ask because I've just imported the RDNZL project into the > c-l.net repository but there's no message at > > . > > How do I configure this list to send messages whenever the CVS > repository changes? Looking at the configuration of rdnzl-cvs, it seems that everything gets moderated, and if a message is on hold for moderation it gets automagically discarded. So, for some reason, rdnzl-cvs seems to be a black hole :-) This is a theory, anyways. The relevant settings are # means "Yes": default_member_moderation = 1 # 2 = "Discard" member_moderation_action = 2 which might be the explanation. Please let me know whether changing this changes anything (this is somewhere under "Privacy" in the mailman config panel). I could also change it myself if you want. Regards, Mario. From mb at bese.it Fri Jan 7 18:17:02 2005 From: mb at bese.it (Marco Baringer) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:17:02 -0500 Subject: [admin] lost password and gpg key Message-ID: my hard disk crashed on newyear's day and took my gpg key and all my ssh ids with it (among other things :(). what's the best way to go about getting a new password for my account (mbaringer) on cl.net? -- -Marco Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget the perfect offering. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. -Leonard Cohen From edi at agharta.de Sat Jan 8 22:54:27 2005 From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:54:27 +0100 Subject: [admin] CVS lists In-Reply-To: (Mario Mommer's message of "Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:48:26 +0100") References:

Message-ID: Hi Mario! On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:48:26 +0100, Mario Mommer wrote: > Looking at the configuration of rdnzl-cvs, it seems that everything > gets moderated, and if a message is on hold for moderation it gets > automagically discarded. So, for some reason, rdnzl-cvs seems to be > a black hole :-) > > This is a theory, anyways. The relevant settings are > > # means "Yes": > default_member_moderation = 1 > > # 2 = "Discard" > member_moderation_action = 2 > > which might be the explanation. Please let me know whether changing > this changes anything (this is somewhere under "Privacy" in the > mailman config panel). I could also change it myself if you want. Hmm, these are the settings I also use for the xxx-announce mailing lists and they work fine there. The idea is that only I can post messages and spam gets discarded automatically. (I had to cope with significant amounts of spam on cl-ppcre-announce and friends when I used more liberal settings.) I guess the automatic CVS messages are sent my some other user? Which one is it? Can I subscribe him? Feel free to make changes to the mailing list settings if that helps to make the list work like it should. Thanks, Edi. From edi at agharta.de Sat Jan 8 22:57:38 2005 From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:57:38 +0100 Subject: [admin] New developers for RDNZL project In-Reply-To: (Mario Mommer's message of "Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:30:27 +0100") References:

Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:30:27 +0100, Mario Mommer wrote: > I just need the PGP keys for each. I did send the key for Charley Cox, didn't I? (I can't find the mail right now but I'm pretty sure I sent it.) Anyway, what's the next step? Will he get an email from you? Thanks, Edi. From mmommer at common-lisp.net Sun Jan 9 21:58:43 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:58:43 +0100 Subject: [admin] New developers for RDNZL project In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Edi Weitz writes: > On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:30:27 +0100, Mario Mommer wrote: > >> I just need the PGP keys for each. > > I did send the key for Charley Cox, didn't I? (I can't find the mail > right now but I'm pretty sure I sent it.) > > Anyway, what's the next step? Will he get an email from you? Email is on his way. His account already exists. Sorry for the delay... Regards, Mario. From mmommer at common-lisp.net Mon Jan 10 17:57:10 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:57:10 +0100 Subject: [admin] CVS lists In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Edi Weitz writes: > Hi Mario! > > On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 11:48:26 +0100, Mario Mommer wrote: > >> Looking at the configuration of rdnzl-cvs, it seems that everything >> gets moderated, and if a message is on hold for moderation it gets >> automagically discarded. So, for some reason, rdnzl-cvs seems to be >> a black hole :-) >> >> This is a theory, anyways. The relevant settings are >> >> # means "Yes": >> default_member_moderation = 1 >> >> # 2 = "Discard" >> member_moderation_action = 2 >> >> which might be the explanation. Please let me know whether changing >> this changes anything (this is somewhere under "Privacy" in the >> mailman config panel). I could also change it myself if you want. > > Hmm, these are the settings I also use for the xxx-announce mailing > lists and they work fine there. The idea is that only I can post > messages and spam gets discarded automatically. (I had to cope with > significant amounts of spam on cl-ppcre-announce and friends when I > used more liberal settings.) Well, any commit message appears as a message from a member. What seems to be happening is that these messages get piped to /dev/null together with all the spam. BTW, spam should not be a real problem on our server. The antispam measures were implemented around mid december 2004; you might want to check the spam level of e.g. the admin list, which is unmoderated. The lack of spam before that date is due to me manually removing all of it back then. > I guess the automatic CVS messages are sent my some other user? Which > one is it? The user at common-lisp.net that commits. > Feel free to make changes to the mailing list settings if that helps > to make the list work like it should. Ok, I'll fix it. Regards, Mario. From mmommer at common-lisp.net Mon Jan 10 18:11:47 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:11:47 +0100 Subject: [admin] CVS lists In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Mario Mommer writes: > > Well, any commit message appears as a message from a member. What > seems to be happening is that these messages get piped to /dev/null > together with all the spam. > >> I guess the automatic CVS messages are sent my some other user? Which >> one is it? > > The user at common-lisp.net that commits. Only the latter is right, of course. >> Feel free to make changes to the mailing list settings if that helps >> to make the list work like it should. > > Ok, I'll fix it. Ok, I changed that settings, and autoapproved anything that comes from common-lisp.net. Seems to work: http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/rdnzl-cvs/2005-January/thread.html Regards, Mario. From edi at agharta.de Mon Jan 10 18:26:23 2005 From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:26:23 +0100 Subject: [admin] CVS lists In-Reply-To: (Mario Mommer's message of "Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:11:47 +0100") References:

Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:11:47 +0100, Mario Mommer wrote: > Ok, I changed that settings, and autoapproved anything that comes > from common-lisp.net. Seems to work: Thanks for your help! From strandh at labri.fr Thu Jan 13 11:32:56 2005 From: strandh at labri.fr (Robert Strandh) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:56 +0100 Subject: [admin] New Climacs member: Mattieu Villeneuve Message-ID: <16870.23656.724544.968114@serveur5.labri.fr> Hello, Could you please add Matthieu Villeneuve as a member of the Climacs project. He already has a project (Imago) on cl.net. Thanks in advance, -- Robert Strandh --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajuckel at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 14:47:15 2005 From: ajuckel at gmail.com (Anthony Juckel) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:47:15 -0600 Subject: [admin] New Climacs member: Mattieu Villeneuve In-Reply-To: <16870.23656.724544.968114@serveur5.labri.fr> References: <16870.23656.724544.968114@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: mvilleneuve has been added to the Climacs project. Anthony W. Juckel On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:32:56 +0100, Robert Strandh wrote: > Hello, > > Could you please add Matthieu Villeneuve as a member of the Climacs > project. He already has a project (Imago) on cl.net. > > Thanks in advance, > -- > Robert Strandh > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C > or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden > slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > admin mailing list > admin at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin > From aw-confirm at ebay.com Fri Jan 14 10:17:43 2005 From: aw-confirm at ebay.com (eBay Billing Department) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:17:43 -0800 Subject: [admin] Credit/Debit Card Update Message-ID: <20050114101651.8F6DE884A5@common-lisp.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mb at bese.it Mon Jan 17 07:23:28 2005 From: mb at bese.it (Marco Baringer) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:23:28 +0100 Subject: [admin] mailing list passwords Message-ID: i have lost the admin passwords to the bese-* and ucw-* mailing lists, would someone mind sending them me (if encrypted using the new gpg key) or putting them in ~mbaringer on common-lisp.net? -- -Marco Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget the perfect offering. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. -Leonard Cohen From mmommer at common-lisp.net Mon Jan 17 18:04:54 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:04:54 +0100 Subject: [admin] mailing list passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marco Baringer writes: > i have lost the admin passwords to the bese-* and ucw-* mailing lists, > would someone mind sending them me (if encrypted using the new gpg > key) or putting them in ~mbaringer on common-lisp.net? Passwords have been changed and mailed. Regards, Mario. From ajuckel at gmail.com Mon Jan 17 13:55:41 2005 From: ajuckel at gmail.com (Anthony Juckel) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:55:41 -0600 Subject: [admin] mailing list passwords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm sending the encrypted passwords to you now. Anthony W. Juckel On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:23:28 +0100, Marco Baringer wrote: > > i have lost the admin passwords to the bese-* and ucw-* mailing lists, > would someone mind sending them me (if encrypted using the new gpg > key) or putting them in ~mbaringer on common-lisp.net? > > -- > -Marco > Ring the bells that still can ring. > Forget the perfect offering. > There is a crack in everything. > That's how the light gets in. > -Leonard Cohen > _______________________________________________ > admin mailing list > admin at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin > From matthieu.villeneuve at free.fr Sun Jan 23 19:49:15 2005 From: matthieu.villeneuve at free.fr (matthieu.villeneuve at free.fr) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:49:15 +0100 Subject: [admin] climacs-cvs Message-ID: <1106509755.41f3ffbb68721@imp5-q.free.fr> Hello, There seems to be a little problem with emails that are sent whenever I commit some change in the Climacs project: I receive a message saying that my commit message is waiting for approval by the project admin, and the admin gets told that a message is waiting for his approval, even though I apparently am a member of the project. This may be a little annoying if other people's work depends on changes I am doing, and they are waiting for the commit emails. Would you by any chance know what is wrong here (if something is actually wrong)? Thanks a lot, -- Matthieu Villeneuve From pc at p-cos.net Mon Jan 24 15:29:54 2005 From: pc at p-cos.net (Pascal Costanza) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:29:54 +0100 Subject: [admin] Closer Project Proposal Message-ID: Hi, I have a proposal for hosting the following project on common-lisp.net: - Name of the project: "Closer" - Description: This project is an umbrella project for a few subprojects whose aim is to improve the usability of the CLOS MOP across different Common Lisp implementations. The first step (which already exists to a large degree) is a library that checks what features of the AMOP specification is supported by a given CL implementation. This results in a number of keywords that describe the various aspects of a MOP which can, for example, be used to conditionalize one's source code (when added to *features*). The second step (which exists as a rough sketch) is a compatibility library that provides a package that adds missing features and/or replaces existing features with versions that better reflect the AMOP specs. If the latter is not possible, I try to provide utility functions that allow one to work around restrictions. (If you're interested, I can give an example of what I have in mind.) Finally, the Closer project should host a few example metaclasses, including some of the examples given in AMOP, and probably others as well. For example, my goal is to move some of the stuff from AspectL to the Closer project in order to turn this into a more coherent library. It is important to provide example applications of the MOP because they implicitly provide test cases against which new MOP implementations can be checked for compatibility. So in the long run, the Closer project should help to bring the MOP into a shape that Common Lisp programmers can better rely on across many implementations. - Currently, I am the only member of the project but the goal is to involve other people, especially implementers of CLOS. My own code is to be licensed under a creative commons license - see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ - if other code is submitted I will make sure that it is compatible with that license or with other reasonably "free" licenses, including BSD, MIT, LGPL and LLGPL. When in doubt (for example with problematic licenses like GPL) I would want to contact you to discuss this. In general, I prefer licenses that can be used both in an open source and in a commercial context at the same time. OK, I hope that you'll find this admittedly vague description acceptable. ;) All the best, Pascal -- Any sufficently complicated Java program requires a programmable IDE to make up for the half of Common Lisp not implemented in the program itself. - Peter Seibel From root at common-lisp.net Mon Jan 24 17:50:20 2005 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:50:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [admin] added closer; owned by pcostanza Message-ID: <20050124175020.9BE4A8802B@common-lisp.net> Add successful at 2005.01.24.09.50. From mmommer at common-lisp.net Mon Jan 24 17:20:47 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:20:47 +0100 Subject: [admin] climacs-cvs In-Reply-To: <1106509755.41f3ffbb68721@imp5-q.free.fr> References: <1106509755.41f3ffbb68721@imp5-q.free.fr> Message-ID: Hi, matthieu.villeneuve at free.fr writes: > There seems to be a little problem with emails that are sent > whenever I commit some change in the Climacs project: I receive > a message saying that my commit message is waiting for approval > by the project admin, and the admin gets told that a message is > waiting for his approval, even though I apparently am a member > of the project. This may be a little annoying if other people's > work depends on changes I am doing, and they are waiting for > the commit emails. > > Would you by any chance know what is wrong here (if something > is actually wrong)? Mailman configuration. Should be solved by now; let me know if the problem persists. Regards, Mario. From mmommer at common-lisp.net Mon Jan 24 17:44:50 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:44:50 +0100 Subject: [admin] Closer Project Proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Pascal! Pascal Costanza writes: > Hi, > > I have a proposal for hosting the following project on common-lisp.net: > > - Name of the project: "Closer" > > - Description: [...] > > So in the long run, the Closer project should help to bring the MOP > into a shape that Common Lisp programmers can better rely on across > many implementations. Wow, sounds good. > - Currently, I am the only member of the project but the goal is to > involve other people, especially implementers of CLOS. My own code is > to be licensed under a creative commons license - see > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ - if other code is > submitted I will make sure that it is compatible with that license or > with other reasonably "free" licenses, including BSD, MIT, LGPL and > LLGPL. When in doubt (for example with problematic licenses like GPL) > I would want to contact you to discuss this. In general, I prefer > licenses that can be used both in an open source and in a commercial > context at the same time. Cross-platform cross-license MOP. b00m! :-) We have no policy against GPL (feel free to ask if you have questions, though). All code should be open source with a reasonable licence, that is all we ask. > OK, I hope that you'll find this admittedly vague description > acceptable. ;) It is ok. I'll create the project shortly. Regards, Mario. > > > All the best, > Pascal > > -- > Any sufficently complicated Java program requires a programmable IDE > to make up for the half of Common Lisp not implemented in the program > itself. - Peter Seibel > > _______________________________________________ > admin mailing list > admin at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/admin From vikasgp at gmail.com Thu Jan 27 14:22:12 2005 From: vikasgp at gmail.com (vikasgp at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:52:12 +0530 Subject: [admin] Request for hosting of CL-XMMS Message-ID: Hi, I'm Vikas G P. My project is called CL-XMMS. It provides UFFI based CL bindings for the XMMS library, allowing you to control an XMMS session through Lisp. The code will be released under GPL. I'd be glad if common-lisp.net would host it. TIA, Vikas G P -- "Since he had nothing better to do well in, he did well in school" --- Joseph Heller, "Catch-22" From mmommer at common-lisp.net Thu Jan 27 20:37:10 2005 From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:37:10 +0100 Subject: [admin] Request for hosting of CL-XMMS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi vikasgp at gmail.com writes: > I'm Vikas G P. My project is called CL-XMMS. It provides UFFI based CL > bindings for the XMMS library, allowing you to control an XMMS session > through Lisp. The code will be released under GPL. I'd be glad if > common-lisp.net would host it. No problem. You might want to reconsider your choice of licence. In the lisp world, libraries written under the GPL rarely (if ever) become popular. Most people would recomend you to use the lgpl/llgpl, as that allows your code being used in more situations. > TIA, > Vikas G P We'll need somewhat more of your name to open your project (sorry). Also, we will need your PGP key to send you your password. Regards, Mario.