From mb at bese.it  Tue May  4 17:39:39 2004
From: mb at bese.it (Marco Baringer)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 19:39:39 +0200
Subject: [admin] Arch
References: <006f01c3c888$3a431c50$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com>
	<20031222123837.GA744@random-state.net>
Message-ID: <m265bcnlb8.fsf@bese.it>

Nikodemus Siivola <nikodemus at random-state.net> writes:

> Eventually we hope to compile (or get someone to do it) a short arch
> howto for common-lisp.net, but one does not yet exist.

[draft - this is based on my experience, comments from ubf, encline
and clotnet developers would be nice]

[note: this is written in the second person, probably not the best
idea]

------------------------------------------------------------------------

How to setup an arch repository for a project hosted on
common-lisp.net:

Short Version:

$ tla make-archive --listing \
      'PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR' \
      'sftp://LOGIN at common-lisp.net/project/PROJECT-NAME/public_html/PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR'

Long Version:

The first thing you'll need is to decide the name of the archive and
where, on the cl.net machine's file system, to put the archive. For
simplicity we'll assume you'll follow the
PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR convention. Since we want this
archive to be accessible via http it must be located in the
public_html directory or your project. Arch's http access mechanism
does not allow writes to the archive, so developers will access the
archive via sftp. The command to create this archive is:

$ tla make-archive --listing \
      'PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR' \
      'sftp://LOGIN at common-lisp.net/project/PROJECT-NAME/public_html/PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR'

Anyone who wants anonymous (read-only) access to the archive will
need to do:

$ tla register-archive \
      'PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR' \
      'http://www.common-lisp.net/project/PROJECT-NAME/PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR'

Other developers who want read/write access will need to do:

$ tla register-archive \
      'PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR' \
      'sftp://LOGIN at common-lisp.net/project/PROJECT-NAME/public_html/PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR'

Obviously they'll need to have ssh access to the cl.net machine.

The last thing you might consider doing is sending an email to
admin at common-lisp.net to get the archive added to ViewARCH.

-- 
-Marco
Ring the bells that still can ring.
Forget your perfect offering.
There is a crack in everything.
That's how the light gets in.
     -Leonard Cohen



From yrashk at fp.org.ua  Thu May  6 11:03:16 2004
From: yrashk at fp.org.ua (Yurii A. Rashkovskii)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 14:03:16 +0300
Subject: [admin] Arch
References: <006f01c3c888$3a431c50$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com><20031222123837.GA744@random-state.net>
	<m265bcnlb8.fsf@bese.it>
Message-ID: <04cd01c43359$bd700e80$9800000a@YURII>

> [draft - this is based on my experience, comments from ubf, encline
> and clotnet developers would be nice]

Here you are :)

> Short Version:
>
> $ tla make-archive --listing \
>       'PROJECT-NAME at common-lisp.net--YEAR' \
>
'sftp://LOGIN at common-lisp.net/project/PROJECT-NAME/public_html/PROJECT-NAME@
common-lisp.net--YEAR'

Just as a suggestion, tla 1.2 could sign archives, so the proposition of
'--signed' usage and reference to
http://wiki.gnuarch.org/moin.cgi/Signing_20Archives could be added.

And (just personally!) I don't think that --YEAR is a "right thing" (I know
that it's recommended by Tom, but...)




From lfhlrckafphuyp at comcast.net  Sun May  9 01:35:12 2004
From: lfhlrckafphuyp at comcast.net (julie2)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 18:35:12 -0700
Subject: [admin] (no subject)
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From mb at bese.it  Sun May  2 17:27:56 2004
From: mb at bese.it (Marco Baringer)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 19:27:56 +0200
Subject: [admin] running stuff on the cl.net machine
Message-ID: <m2ad0q20yr.fsf@bese.it>


1) i have a script which builds up daily tarballs of ucw, currently
   this runs on my laptop everynight a midnight. i'd be a lot more
   realiable (i'm not always connected) if it ran directly on the
   cl.net machine. would there be any problems with running this as a
   cron job? the overhead would be minimal (copy, tar then bzip about
   3 MB of text files).

2) i'd like to, eventually, run an instance of ucw so that people
   could play with it without having to install it. this would
   probably be easiest if it ran behind it's own copy of apache with
   mod_lisp installed. however, this could, potentially, use up a good
   bit of cpu (ucw isn't exactly optimized yet). 

anyway, feel free to simply ignore both of these requests for any
reason. they'd make my life easier, but neither is a show stopper.
-- 
-Marco
Ring the bells that still can ring.
Forget your perfect offering.
There is a crack in everything.
That's how the light gets in.
     -Leonard Cohen



From erik at nittin.net  Sun May  2 17:41:47 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 13:41:47 -0400
Subject: [admin] running stuff on the cl.net machine
In-Reply-To: <m2ad0q20yr.fsf@bese.it>
References: <m2ad0q20yr.fsf@bese.it>
Message-ID: <FC538AB1-9C5F-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On May 2, 2004, at 1:27 PM, Marco Baringer wrote:

> 1) i have a script which builds up daily tarballs of ucw, currently
>    this runs on my laptop everynight a midnight. i'd be a lot more
>    realiable (i'm not always connected) if it ran directly on the
>    cl.net machine. would there be any problems with running this as a
>    cron job? the overhead would be minimal (copy, tar then bzip about
>    3 MB of text files).

Not really a problem but I'm hesitant to say yes incase we all of a 
sudden
have 50 or so cronjobs (one per project) running.  That would bog down 
the
server.

What do you guys think?

Rsync is now running on clnet, would that help you in any way?

> 2) i'd like to, eventually, run an instance of ucw so that people
>    could play with it without having to install it. this would
>    probably be easiest if it ran behind it's own copy of apache with
>    mod_lisp installed. however, this could, potentially, use up a good
>    bit of cpu (ucw isn't exactly optimized yet).

I'm pretty happy to do this (we were going to try to use clhp too but 
the
author never replied when I ran into some installation problems).  I'll 
need
a detalied step by step guide on how to install it.

Erik.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Sun May  2 21:40:11 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:40:11 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] running stuff on the cl.net machine
In-Reply-To: <FC538AB1-9C5F-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <m2ad0q20yr.fsf@bese.it>
	<FC538AB1-9C5F-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405030033340.146266@kosh.hut.fi>

On Sun, 2 May 2004, Erik Enge wrote:

> Not really a problem but I'm hesitant to say yes incase we all of a
> sudden have 50 or so cronjobs (one per project) running.  That would bog down
> the server.

I agree, but I suspect simple enough solutions exist. How about
/project/*/daily.sh, which are run sequentially with appropriate
ulimits?

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From erik at nittin.net  Sun May  2 21:48:21 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:21 -0400
Subject: [admin] running stuff on the cl.net machine
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405030033340.146266@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <m2ad0q20yr.fsf@bese.it>
	<FC538AB1-9C5F-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405030033340.146266@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <6DF3EC5B-9C82-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On May 2, 2004, at 5:40 PM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> I agree, but I suspect simple enough solutions exist. How about
> /project/*/daily.sh, which are run sequentially with appropriate
> ulimits?

That's certainly agreeable.  That would give us the ability to keep
control.  Marco, does that work for you?

Erik.




From mb at bese.it  Tue May  4 09:26:48 2004
From: mb at bese.it (Marco Baringer)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:26:48 +0200
Subject: [admin] running stuff on the cl.net machine
In-Reply-To: <6DF3EC5B-9C82-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> (Erik Enge's
	message of "Sun, 2 May 2004 17:48:21 -0400")
References: <m2ad0q20yr.fsf@bese.it>
	<FC538AB1-9C5F-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405030033340.146266@kosh.hut.fi>
	<6DF3EC5B-9C82-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <m28yg8tuef.fsf@bese.it>

Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:

> That's certainly agreeable.  That would give us the ability to keep
> control.  Marco, does that work for you?

yes, that'd be fine.

-- 
-Marco
Ring the bells that still can ring.
Forget your perfect offering.
There is a crack in everything.
That's how the light gets in.
     -Leonard Cohen



From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Sat May  8 09:16:15 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 12:16:15 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Oops, bogus pages
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081208350.448524@kosh.hut.fi>

The following URLs seem to have a b0rken versions of the taxonomy:

 http://www.common-lisp.net/projects/(index.s?html)

Since there are no corresponding pages in /var/www/ I'm assuming that this
is the result of some rewriting magic in Apache?

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Sat May  8 10:04:02 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 13:04:02 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] LGPL in FAQ
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081301510.448524@kosh.hut.fi>

I finally got around to adding a note on LGPL issues to the FAQ. So far
only in CVS.

Please comment/correct, since in this particular case I'm hesitant to
update the web-page before I know others are ok with what I wrote.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Sat May  8 13:25:33 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 15:25:33 +0200
Subject: [admin] LGPL in FAQ
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081301510.448524@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081301510.448524@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <fzk6zngieq.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola at cc.hut.fi> writes:
> I finally got around to adding a note on LGPL issues to the FAQ. So far
> only in CVS.

Great!

> Please comment/correct, since in this particular case I'm hesitant to
> update the web-page before I know others are ok with what I wrote.

I think it is ok. I took the liberty to do some changes, which reflect
what I would have done differently, but they are only at the level of
details.

Regards,
        Mario.




From erik at nittin.net  Mon May 10 12:20:40 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:20:40 -0400
Subject: [admin] LGPL in FAQ
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081301510.448524@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081301510.448524@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <737FB602-A27C-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On May 8, 2004, at 6:04 AM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> Please comment/correct, since in this particular case I'm hesitant to
> update the web-page before I know others are ok with what I wrote.

I think it's good.

Erik.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Mon May 10 12:32:36 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:32:36 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] LGPL in FAQ
In-Reply-To: <737FB602-A27C-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081301510.448524@kosh.hut.fi>
	<737FB602-A27C-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405101532020.296348@kosh.hut.fi>

On Mon, 10 May 2004, Erik Enge wrote:

> > Please comment/correct, since in this particular case I'm hesitant to
> > update the web-page before I know others are ok with what I wrote.
>
> I think it's good.

Ok, page updated.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From sdr at jhb.ucs.co.za  Sat May  8 14:56:16 2004
From: sdr at jhb.ucs.co.za (Sean Ross)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:56:16 +0200
Subject: [admin] Hosting request
Message-ID: <87brkzge7j.fsf@sdr.ucs.co.za>

Hi admin,

This a request for hosting the cl-store project
on common-lisp.net.

My name is Sean Ross and cl-store is a portable serialization package
for writing/reading common-lisp objects from streams,  much like the
cmucl wire package. It currently, on sbcl, supports serialization of
all lisp objects (I think) apart from functions, methods and
generic functions.

CL-STORE has been tested and confirmed to work on
 Linux x86
   SBCL, CMUCL, CLISP and Lispworks.
 Windows
   CLISP and Lispworks.

Project Details
==================
Name        : CL-STORE.
License     : MIT.
Description : Portable Common Lisp serialization package.
Author      : Sean Ross <sdr at jhb.ucs.co.za>.
Members     : None.



Hosting would be extremely appreciated.

Regards
  Sean.


-- 
The pen is mightier than the sword. 
Only if the sword is very short and the pen is very sharp.
Terry Pratchett.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Sat May  8 15:01:39 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 18:01:39 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Hosting request
In-Reply-To: <87brkzge7j.fsf@sdr.ucs.co.za>
References: <87brkzge7j.fsf@sdr.ucs.co.za>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081759440.448524@kosh.hut.fi>

On Sat, 8 May 2004, Sean Ross wrote:

> Project Details
> ==================
> Name        : CL-STORE.
> License     : MIT.
> Description : Portable Common Lisp serialization package.
> Author      : Sean Ross <sdr at jhb.ucs.co.za>.
> Members     : None.

Approved,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola

PS. This sounds very very nice!



From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Sat May  8 15:10:09 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 17:10:09 +0200
Subject: [admin] Hosting request
In-Reply-To: <87brkzge7j.fsf@sdr.ucs.co.za>
References: <87brkzge7j.fsf@sdr.ucs.co.za>
Message-ID: <fzoeozosz2.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Hi,

Sean Ross <sdr at jhb.ucs.co.za> writes:
> This a request for hosting the cl-store project
> on common-lisp.net.
>
> My name is Sean Ross and cl-store is a portable serialization package
> for writing/reading common-lisp objects from streams,  much like the
> cmucl wire package. It currently, on sbcl, supports serialization of
> all lisp objects (I think) apart from functions, methods and
> generic functions.
>
> CL-STORE has been tested and confirmed to work on
>  Linux x86
>    SBCL, CMUCL, CLISP and Lispworks.
>  Windows
>    CLISP and Lispworks.

Wow.

> Project Details
> ==================
> Name        : CL-STORE.
> License     : MIT.
> Description : Portable Common Lisp serialization package.
> Author      : Sean Ross <sdr at jhb.ucs.co.za>.
> Members     : None.
>
> Hosting would be extremely appreciated.

Approved!

Regards,
        Mario.
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From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Sun May  9 20:41:51 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 23:41:51 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Hosting request
In-Reply-To: <87zn8iezqw.fsf@sdr.ucs.co.za>
References: <87brkzge7j.fsf@sdr.ucs.co.za>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405081759440.448524@kosh.hut.fi>
	<87zn8iezqw.fsf@sdr.ucs.co.za>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405092338150.237186@kosh.hut.fi>

On Sun, 9 May 2004, Sean Ross wrote:

> What is the next step?

Please send your GPG/PGP public key in ascii-armored form to
admin at common-lisp.net. It will be used to encrypt your password for
sending it to you, and also used when needed as an opaque electronic
identity if we need for one reason or another be certain that we're deling
with the real Sean Ross.

After that the project and your account will be set up asap.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola



From rudi at constantly.at  Mon May 10 09:28:05 2004
From: rudi at constantly.at (Rudi Schlatte)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:28:05 +0200
Subject: [admin] User account for me
Message-ID: <576D456A-A264-11D8-A42B-000A95717856@constantly.at>

Hi,

Could you create a user account on common-lisp.net for me?  Preferred 
name would be `rudi'.  My gpg key should be fetchable from any 
keyserver, the key id is 9A690867.

(I'm thinking about extracting acl-compat and cl-ssl from their hiding 
place within portableaserve and putting them on common-lisp.net as soon 
as I'm not so free-time-challenged -- might take a while, though.)

Thanks!

Rudi
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From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Mon May 10 09:37:02 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 12:37:02 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] User account for me
In-Reply-To: <576D456A-A264-11D8-A42B-000A95717856@constantly.at>
References: <576D456A-A264-11D8-A42B-000A95717856@constantly.at>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405101229190.296348@kosh.hut.fi>

On Mon, 10 May 2004, Rudi Schlatte wrote:

> Could you create a user account on common-lisp.net for me?  Preferred
> name would be `rudi'.  My gpg key should be fetchable from any
> keyserver, the key id is 9A690867.

We don't have a policy in place for premptive user-account creation, so
in order give Rudi what he wants and survive without setting precedent,
I'm inviting him to join the Hyperdoc project. ;-)

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From rudi at constantly.at  Mon May 10 09:42:30 2004
From: rudi at constantly.at (Rudi Schlatte)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:42:30 +0200
Subject: [admin] User account for me
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405101229190.296348@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <576D456A-A264-11D8-A42B-000A95717856@constantly.at>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405101229190.296348@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <5AC50BCC-A266-11D8-A42B-000A95717856@constantly.at>


On 10. Mai 2004, at 11:37, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> On Mon, 10 May 2004, Rudi Schlatte wrote:
>
>> Could you create a user account on common-lisp.net for me?  Preferred
>> name would be `rudi'.  My gpg key should be fetchable from any
>> keyserver, the key id is 9A690867.
>
> We don't have a policy in place for premptive user-account creation, so
> in order give Rudi what he wants and survive without setting precedent,
> I'm inviting him to join the Hyperdoc project. ;-)
>

Fine with me.

Cheers, Rudi
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From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Mon May 10 09:40:23 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:40:23 +0200
Subject: [admin] User account for me
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405101229190.296348@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <576D456A-A264-11D8-A42B-000A95717856@constantly.at>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405101229190.296348@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <fzisf41uyg.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola at cc.hut.fi> writes:
> On Mon, 10 May 2004, Rudi Schlatte wrote:
>> Could you create a user account on common-lisp.net for me?  Preferred
>> name would be `rudi'.  My gpg key should be fetchable from any
>> keyserver, the key id is 9A690867.
>
> We don't have a policy in place for premptive user-account creation, so
> in order give Rudi what he wants and survive without setting precedent,
> I'm inviting him to join the Hyperdoc project. ;-)

Fair enough :-)

Regards,
        Mario.




From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Mon May 10 09:36:01 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:36:01 +0200
Subject: [admin] User account for me
In-Reply-To: <576D456A-A264-11D8-A42B-000A95717856@constantly.at>
References: <576D456A-A264-11D8-A42B-000A95717856@constantly.at>
Message-ID: <fzn04g1v5q.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Rudi Schlatte <rudi at constantly.at> writes:
> Hi,
>
> Could you create a user account on common-lisp.net for me?  Preferred
> name would be `rudi'.  My gpg key should be fetchable from any
> keyserver, the key id is 9A690867.
>
> (I'm thinking about extracting acl-compat and cl-ssl from their hiding
> place within portableaserve and putting them on common-lisp.net as
> soon as I'm not so free-time-challenged -- might take a while, though.)

Well, usually (as in, we've never done it any other way) we grant
accounts only on the grouds of membership in a project. I hope you can
unerstand this position.

Regards,
        Mario.




From phj at tepus.com  Wed May 12 14:35:25 2004
From: phj at tepus.com (phj)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:35:25 +0800
Subject: [admin] On mirror common-lisp.net.
Message-ID: <40A2362D.5060809@tepus.com>

Dear administrator:
      I would like to mirror all bits of your site(ftp of 
common-lisp.net),if I could do that,please
tell me how to do and how much space should I preserve for that?

regards.

  Peng



From erik at nittin.net  Wed May 12 15:46:37 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:46:37 -0400
Subject: [admin] On mirror common-lisp.net.
In-Reply-To: <40A2362D.5060809@tepus.com>
References: <40A2362D.5060809@tepus.com>
Message-ID: <8DDBF73B-A42B-11D8-AF18-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On May 12, 2004, at 10:35 AM, phj wrote:

> Dear administrator:
>      I would like to mirror all bits of your site(ftp of 
> common-lisp.net),if I could do that,please
> tell me how to do and how much space should I preserve for that?

Sure, that would be great! :-)

I added the ftp repository to rsync

   $ rsync common-lisp.net::ftp/pub/project/

To see a list.  You could set up a cronjob to rsync all of those.

Currently all the files consume 1.7G of space.

Where is the mirror located?  We should put it on our website.

Erik.




From e9626484 at stud3.tuwien.ac.at  Thu May 13 12:33:04 2004
From: e9626484 at stud3.tuwien.ac.at (Helmut Eller)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:33:04 +0200
Subject: [admin] SLIME CVS user
Message-ID: <m24qqkcxrz.fsf@stud3.tuwien.ac.at>

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Aloha common-lisp.net people,

could you add Martin Simmons <martin at xanalys.com> to the SLIME CVS
committers?  
Thanks.

Helmut.
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From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Sun May 16 17:04:55 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:04:55 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Hosting request (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405162003360.350110@kosh.hut.fi>

Oops. This got stuck in my private mail... sorry.

 -- Nikodemus

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:05:32 +0200
From: Sean Ross <sdr at jhb.ucs.co.za>
To: Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola at cc.hut.fi>
Subject: Re: [admin] Hosting request

Hi,

Public key (hope this is in the correct format) is attached.

If it's possible could I grab sdr as as username?

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Thanks
  Sean.


-- 
The pen is mightier than the sword. 
Only if the sword is very short and the pen is very sharp.
Terry Pratchett.

From wang at ai.mit.edu  Sun May 16 23:56:12 2004
From: wang at ai.mit.edu (Cheuk-san Edward Wang)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 19:56:12 -0400
Subject: [admin] Please add me to the cmucl project
Message-ID: <20040516235612.GA26582@horsepower.ai.mit.edu>


I was invited by several cmucl developers to join the project. Please
give me an account with commit access to cmucl. I've attached a gpg
public key. Please let me know if you need anything else.

Thank you very much

Cheuksan Wang

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From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Mon May 17 00:48:48 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 03:48:48 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Please add me to the cmucl project
In-Reply-To: <20040516235612.GA26582@horsepower.ai.mit.edu>
References: <20040516235612.GA26582@horsepower.ai.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405170345420.262296@kosh.hut.fi>

On Sun, 16 May 2004, Cheuk-san Edward Wang wrote:

> I was invited by several cmucl developers to join the project. Please
> give me an account with commit access to cmucl. I've attached a gpg
> public key. Please let me know if you need anything else.

We need a confirmation from a CMUCL developer for this, GPG signed for
preference.

Sorry about the inconvenince, but we try to maintain a modicum of
resistance to social engineering... ;)

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola, Common-lisp.net



From root at common-lisp.net  Mon May 17 12:53:35 2004
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 08:53:35 -0400
Subject: [admin] added cl-store; owned by sross
Message-ID: <E1BPhcd-0005FA-00@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2004.05.17.08.53.



From toy at rtp.ericsson.se  Mon May 17 14:10:00 2004
From: toy at rtp.ericsson.se (Raymond Toy)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:10:00 -0400
Subject: [admin] Add Cheuk-san Edward Wang to cmucl committer
Message-ID: <sxd3c5zp2kn.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>

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Please add Cheuk-san Edward Wang (wang at ai.mit.edu) as a committer for
cmucl.

Ray

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From erik at nittin.net  Mon May 17 14:13:04 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:13:04 -0400
Subject: [admin] Add Cheuk-san Edward Wang to cmucl committer
In-Reply-To: <sxd3c5zp2kn.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>
References: <sxd3c5zp2kn.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>
Message-ID: <501DDB89-A80C-11D8-B465-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On May 17, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Raymond Toy wrote:

> Please add Cheuk-san Edward Wang (wang at ai.mit.edu) as a committer for
> cmucl.

Done.

Erik.




From toy at rtp.ericsson.se  Mon May 17 14:47:01 2004
From: toy at rtp.ericsson.se (Raymond Toy)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:47:01 -0400
Subject: [admin] Add Cheuk-san Edward Wang to cmucl committer
In-Reply-To: <501DDB89-A80C-11D8-B465-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> (Erik Enge's
	message of "Mon, 17 May 2004 10:13:04 -0400")
References: <sxd3c5zp2kn.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>
	<501DDB89-A80C-11D8-B465-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <sxdu0yfnmai.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>

>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:

    Erik> On May 17, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Raymond Toy wrote:

    >> Please add Cheuk-san Edward Wang (wang at ai.mit.edu) as a committer for
    >> cmucl.

    Erik> Done.

Thanks!

Ray




From tasko at frisurf.no  Thu May 20 09:18:33 2004
From: tasko at frisurf.no (=?iso-8859-15?Q?T=E5le_Skogan?=)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:18:33 +0200
Subject: [admin] Request for project hosting: clc - Common Lisp Cryptography
Message-ID: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>

Hi!

I'm writing a cryptographic library in Common Lisp and I wonder if you 
would be interested in hostng it. It's not a large, all-encompassing 
library, but the goal is to offer common, secure versions of important 
cryptographic primitives (hash functions like SHA-1, symmetric encryption 
like AES, asymmetric encryption like RSA, digital signatures like DSA 
etc). Utilities like number theoretic primitives and secure random number 
generators will also be included. It will be released under a MIT type 
license.

To my knowlegde there is no open source cryptographic library for Common 
Lisp. My hope is that clc (Common Lisp Cryptography) could be a 
contribution to increase the number of libraries available for Common 
Lisp.

A friend of mine, Frode Vatvedt Fjeld (Movitz), recommended your hosting 
services, and I'm looking forward to hearing from you.


T?le Skogan


Project name: clc
Project member: T?le Skogan (or Taale Skogan if the norwegian letter "?" 
creates trouble). If possible, I would like the user name tales.
License: MIT



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Using M2, Opera's  e-mail client.



From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Thu May 20 10:58:24 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:58:24 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Request for project hosting: clc - Common Lisp
	Cryptography
In-Reply-To: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
References: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201344340.511280@kosh.hut.fi>

On Thu, 20 May 2004, [iso-8859-15] T?le Skogan wrote:

> Project name: clc
> Project member: T?le Skogan (or Taale Skogan if the norwegian letter "?"
> creates trouble). If possible, I would like the user name tales.
> License: MIT

Sounds great!

One comment on the project shorthand name though: the common-lisp
controller seems to be usually shortened clc. I don't see this as big
trouble -- since it isn't a Common-lisp.net project, and even the CLiki
page for clc is untaken. To recap: clc as name is OK, but may be source
of future confusion -- this is your (T?le's) call.

Approved,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola



From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Thu May 20 13:49:58 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:49:58 +0200
Subject: [admin] Request for project hosting: clc - Common Lisp
	Cryptography
In-Reply-To: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no> =?iso-8859-15?q?=28T=E5le?=
	Skogan's message of "Thu, 20 May 2004 11:18:33 +0200")
References: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
Message-ID: <fzad03gqd5.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


T?le Skogan <tasko at frisurf.no> writes:
> [...]

I approve.

Regards,
        Mario.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Thu May 20 12:21:00 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:21:00 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Request for project hosting: clc - Common Lisp
	Cryptography
In-Reply-To: <opr8arqhi6ro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
References: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201344340.511280@kosh.hut.fi>
	<opr8arqhi6ro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201516250.441428@kosh.hut.fi>

On Thu, 20 May 2004, [iso-8859-15] T?le Skogan wrote:

> Thanks, I wasn't aware of Common-Lisp-Controller. Do you think it would
> help to use CLC (uppercase) as project name (including documentation and
> web pages), and clc (lower case) in the code (package name, function
> names, file and directory names).

Probably not very much, given that CLiki page names are case-insenitive
and CL uppercases by default.

> I was hoping to avoid using the long
> name (Common Lisp Cryptography or derivatives thereof) except in the
> definition of the acronym. On the other hand, if both CLC and clc are well
> established acronyms in the Lisp world, I don't won't to intrude on them.
> I would appreciate further advice on the naming issue.

Minor brainstorm:

 - cl-crypto / common-lisp-cryptography

 - lc / lisp-cryptography

 - various "less-canonical-style" names such as clypto,
   cryptcl, cryptomania, etc...

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Thu May 20 12:45:36 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:45:36 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Request for project hosting: clc - Common Lisp
	Cryptopgraphy
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201516250.441428@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201344340.511280@kosh.hut.fi>
	<opr8arqhi6ro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201516250.441428@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201533410.441428@kosh.hut.fi>

Ho hum.

I just realized that I don't think none of us is 100% up-to-date on the US
export laws related to cryptography (this is relevant as our server is
hosted in the US).

Quick look-and-see around the net, and particularly Debian site makes it
seem that these days it's crypto exports are allowed, but require a
dead-tree notification to NSA and an email to notification to
BXA ("Commerce Department's Bureau of Export Administration").

See:

 http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain

Unless someone particularly feels like dealing with this I propose we set
up a non-us server for software that may fall under such laws. Iirc
waays-back someone (Henrik Motakef?) offered diskspace and bandwidth from
a box located in Germany -- either that or I could finally take up on my
word and get us another virtual server from Finland.

(Of course, anyone following this is free the pipe in and offer hosting if
the have space and bandwitdt on a non-us box.)

Thoughts and opinions?

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola

PS. T?le, sorry for the delay this may cause. We originally talked about
this when setting up Common-lisp.net, but the actuality hasn't arisen
until now. You sort of caught us with our pants down. ;-)



From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Thu May 20 14:01:19 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 16:01:19 +0200
Subject: [admin] Request for project hosting: clc - Common Lisp
	Cryptopgraphy
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201533410.441428@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201344340.511280@kosh.hut.fi>
	<opr8arqhi6ro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201516250.441428@kosh.hut.fi>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201533410.441428@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <fz65argpu8.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola at cc.hut.fi> writes:
> [...] Unless someone particularly feels like dealing with this I
> propose we set up a non-us server for software that may fall under
> such laws.

That last option seems to me to be the best one. Safe and hassle free.

Regards,
        Mario.




From frodef at cs.uit.no  Thu May 20 13:20:34 2004
From: frodef at cs.uit.no (Frode Vatvedt Fjeld)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:20:34 +0200
Subject: [admin] Request for project hosting: clc - Common Lisp
	Cryptopgraphy
References: <opr8aj47xfro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201344340.511280@kosh.hut.fi>
	<opr8arqhi6ro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0405201516250.441428@kosh.hut.fi>
	<mailman.21.1085057140.5642.admin@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <2hn043teu5.fsf@vserver.cs.uit.no>

Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola at cc.hut.fi> writes:

> (Of course, anyone following this is free the pipe in and offer
> hosting if the have space and bandwitdt on a non-us box.)

I think possibly we can offer some disk and bandwidth here at Univ. of
Tromsoe, both in general and in this particular case since T?le just
graduated from here. But I'm not sure of what cl.net requires in terms
of OS setup, accounts etc?

-- 
Frode Vatvedt Fjeld


From tasko at frisurf.no  Sun May 23 18:48:21 2004
From: tasko at frisurf.no (=?iso-8859-15?Q?T=E5le_Skogan?=)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 20:48:21 +0200
Subject: [admin] Crypticl - new name in request for project hosting
Message-ID: <opr8guivg4ro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>

Before the weekend I submitted a request for hosting a cryptographic 
library project. The original project name was clc (Common Lisp 
Cryptography), but due to a name clash with another project I was advised 
to choose another name. This was sound advise and I have changed the name 
to Crypticl (cl-crypto was also considered, but in the end I felt it was 
at bit too ambitous for a start-up project). Apart from the name change, 
the original request is unchanged. For convenience I repeat the request 
below.

Regards,
	T?le


Request for project hosting:

I'm writing a cryptographic library in Common Lisp and I wonder if you 
would be interested in hostng it. It's not a large, all-encompassing 
library, but the goal is to offer common, secure versions of important 
cryptographic primitives (hash functions like SHA-1, symmetric encryption 
like AES, asymmetric encryption like RSA, digital signatures like DSA 
etc). Utilities like number theoretic primitives and secure random number 
generators will also be included. It will be released under a MIT type 
license.

Project name: Crypticl
Project member: T?le Skogan
License: MIT

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From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Mon May 24 17:05:01 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:05:01 +0200
Subject: [admin] Re: Crypticl - new name in request for project hosting
In-Reply-To: <opr8guivg4ro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no> =?iso-8859-15?q?=28T=E5le?=
	Skogan's message of "Sun, 23 May 2004 20:48:21 +0200")
References: <opr8guivg4ro99y3@smtp.frisurf.no>
Message-ID: <fzn03x92o2.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


T?le Skogan <tasko at frisurf.no> writes:
> Before the weekend I submitted a request for hosting a cryptographic
> library project. The original project name was clc (Common Lisp
> Cryptography), but due to a name clash with another project I was
> advised to choose another name. This was sound advise and I have
> changed the name to Crypticl (cl-crypto was also considered, but in
> the end I felt it was at bit too ambitous for a start-up
> project). Apart from the name change, the original request is
> unchanged. For convenience I repeat the request below.

Yep, we haven't forgoten you :-) don't worry. It will take a bit of
time because of the issues we already mentioned (which are not your
fault). If the resolution of this looks like it will take more than a
week from today, we will let you know.

Sorry for the delay...

Regards,
        Mario.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Mon May 24 20:58:38 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:58:38 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Clnet down
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405242356420.501431@kosh.hut.fi>

We seem to be down to a degree at least: HTTP and ssh doesn't respond,
pings ok.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus                   "Not as clumsy or random as a C++ or Java.
                             An elegant weapon for a more civilized time."



From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Mon May 24 21:26:26 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 00:26:26 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Re: Clnet down
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405242356420.501431@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405242356420.501431@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0405250024280.501431@kosh.hut.fi>

On Mon, 24 May 2004, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> We seem to be down to a degree at least: HTTP and ssh doesn't respond,
> pings ok.

Correction. Not quite down but dog slow to respond. I hope we're not under
attack...

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus                   "Not as clumsy or random as a C++ or Java.
                             An elegant weapon for a more civilized time."



From mdanish at andrew.cmu.edu  Tue May 25 00:42:03 2004
From: mdanish at andrew.cmu.edu (mrd)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 20:42:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [admin] Lisp in a box project
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58-035.0405242038080.12159@unix45.andrew.cmu.edu>

Project name: lispbox
Name: Matthew Danish
Description: A quick and easy to install Lisp IDE for various platforms.
License: Some portions GPL and the rest MIT/X




From erik at nittin.net  Mon May 31 14:46:18 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 10:46:18 -0400
Subject: [admin] test
Message-ID: <4673C6D9-B311-11D8-B465-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>



Erik.




From erik at nittin.net  Mon May 31 14:50:00 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 10:50:00 -0400
Subject: [admin] test - ignore please
Message-ID: <CB0967B2-B311-11D8-B465-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>



Erik.