From mikel at evins.net  Thu Dec  2 16:55:19 2004
From: mikel at evins.net (mikel evins)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:55:19 -0800
Subject: [admin] never mind; got into clotho-cvs
Message-ID: <F2BAE858-4482-11D9-B80C-000A958E5B06@evins.net>

My mistake; please disregard the previous request.

--me



From mikel at evins.net  Thu Dec  2 16:54:10 2004
From: mikel at evins.net (mikel evins)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:54:10 -0800
Subject: [admin] admin password failing
Message-ID: <C9F1D246-4482-11D9-B80C-000A958E5B06@evins.net>

The admin password I received for the clotho-cvs list is rejected by 
the login page. Any chance o getting that changed so that I can respond 
to the bounce messages it's notifying me of?

Thanks,

--me



From dan.stanger at ieee.org  Fri Dec  3 03:23:02 2004
From: dan.stanger at ieee.org (Donna and Dan Stanger)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 22:23:02 -0500
Subject: [admin] Hosting a mailing list for the Boston Lisp community.
Message-ID: <41AFDC16.5621C260@ieee.org>

Nikodemus Siivola suggested I write to you regarding hosting a mailing
list for the
Boston Lisp community.  I have been a member of the clisp and maxima
community for several years, and Sam Steingold (clisp) and I could
control membership.  Would your site be interested in this?
Thanks,
Dan Stanger



From mmommer at common-lisp.net  Fri Dec  3 12:25:35 2004
From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer)
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:25:35 +0100
Subject: [admin] test - (sigh) please ignore.
Message-ID: <fz4qj3tvpc.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


test



From mmommer at common-lisp.net  Fri Dec  3 12:44:30 2004
From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer)
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:44:30 +0100
Subject: [admin] mailman woes.
Message-ID: <fzzn0vsg9d.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Hi,

ok, I managed to fix mailman again.

Admins: please do not add any new mailing lists until I get a chance
to clean up some of the mess :-)

Regards,
        Mario.



From edi at agharta.de  Thu Dec  9 09:34:23 2004
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 10:34:23 +0100
Subject: [admin] Mailman not updated
Message-ID: <uekhzn7c0.fsf@agharta.de>

Hi!

While my mailing lists (like cl-ppcre-devel or regex-coach) seem to
work the Mailman archives don't seem to be updated. This page, e.g.,

  <http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/cl-ppcre-devel/>

should show some messages from December.

Thanks,
Edi.



From bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu  Fri Dec 10 13:40:31 2004
From: bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu (Brian Mastenbrook)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:40:31 -0600
Subject: [admin] New project request: McCLIM
Message-ID: <0FC3949D-4AB1-11D9-8359-000D933F67D6@cs.indiana.edu>

Hello all,

Mike McDonald has graciously decided to allow the McCLIM CVS repository 
and mailing list to be moved to independent hosting on common-lisp.net. 
I will be handling the administrative details of this move (setting up 
the CVS repository, web site, mailing lists, etc). We need a new 
project for this. A complete list of project developers isn't yet 
available, but enough of them already have common-lisp.net accounts 
that it should be possible to create the accounts and add developers 
later.

The project developers that already have accounts are:

Tim Moore (tmoore)
Robert Strandh (rstrandh)
Andreas Fuchs (afuchs)
Christophe Rhodes (crhodes)
Dan Barlow (dbarlow)
Mikel Evins (mevins)
Gilbert Baumann (gbaumann)

I will be collecting GPGP keys and email addresses for the remaining 
developers so they can get accounts made. In the meantime, can the 
project be created so I can start with the transition of the CVS 
repository?

Thanks!
--
Brian Mastenbrook
http://www.iscblog.info/
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/



From mmommer at common-lisp.net  Sat Dec 11 08:53:30 2004
From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 09:53:30 +0100
Subject: [admin] Mailman not updated
In-Reply-To: <uekhzn7c0.fsf@agharta.de>
References: <uekhzn7c0.fsf@agharta.de>
Message-ID: <fzbrd1b4hh.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Hi Edi,

Edi Weitz <edi at agharta.de> writes:
> While my mailing lists (like cl-ppcre-devel or regex-coach) seem to
> work the Mailman archives don't seem to be updated.

Yes, mailman (or rather, pipermail) is not updating the web
archives. The messages are being archived just fine.

I migrated our mailman installation a few days ago so things are a bit
rough on the edges. Then I had to be away for two days. I'll look at
it soon.

Regards,
        Mario



From mmommer at common-lisp.net  Sat Dec 11 13:17:46 2004
From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:17:46 +0100
Subject: [admin] New project request: McCLIM
In-Reply-To: <0FC3949D-4AB1-11D9-8359-000D933F67D6@cs.indiana.edu>
References: <0FC3949D-4AB1-11D9-8359-000D933F67D6@cs.indiana.edu>
Message-ID: <fzk6rpynwl.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Hi,

Brian Mastenbrook <bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu> writes:
> Mike McDonald has graciously decided to allow the McCLIM CVS
> repository and mailing list to be moved to independent hosting on
> common-lisp.net. I will be handling the administrative details of this
> move (setting up the CVS repository, web site, mailing lists, etc). We
> need a new project for this. A complete list of project developers
> isn't yet available, but enough of them already have common-lisp.net
> accounts that it should be possible to create the accounts and add
> developers later.

Ok. Great.

> The project developers that already have accounts are:
[...]
> I will be collecting GPGP keys and email addresses for the remaining
> developers so they can get accounts made. In the meantime, can the
> project be created so I can start with the transition of the CVS
> repository?

Yes, no problem.

It might take another few hours, though...

Regards,
        Mario.



From root at common-lisp.net  Sat Dec 11 14:21:46 2004
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:21:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [admin] added mcclim; owned by bmastenbrook
Message-ID: <20041211142146.310DA88509@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2004.12.11.15.21.


From dan at telent.net  Sat Dec 11 19:29:17 2004
From: dan at telent.net (Daniel Barlow)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:29:17 +0000
Subject: [admin] New project request: McCLIM
In-Reply-To: <fzk6rpynwl.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> (Mario Mommer's
	message of "Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:17:46 +0100")
References: <0FC3949D-4AB1-11D9-8359-000D933F67D6@cs.indiana.edu>
	<fzk6rpynwl.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
Message-ID: <87d5xg7hwy.fsf@noetbook.telent.net>

I have installed the CVS repo (thanks, Mike): developers who already 
have cl.net logins can now checkout with

$ export CVS_RSH=ssh
$ cvs -z3 -d :ext:<username>@common-lisp.net:/project/mcclim/cvsroot co mcclim

Anoncvs will automatically follow when the cron job kicks in (may even
be there now) - see http://common-lisp.net/faq.shtml

Please shout if any problems (but I'm away next week, so don't shout
to me alone if you want a timely resolution)


-dan

-- 
"please make sure that the person is your friend before you confirm"
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From edi at agharta.de  Sun Dec 12 09:47:33 2004
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:47:33 +0100
Subject: [admin] Project application: RDNZL
Message-ID: <umzwjyhje.fsf@agharta.de>

Hi!

I'd like to apply for a new project.  The name is RDNZL, the license
will be BSD.  Initially the project will (like CL-PPCRE and others)
mainly use the c-l.net mailing list services.

More info about the project is here:

  <http://home.comcast.net/~bc19191/blog/041210.html>

Thanks in advance,
Edi.



From root at common-lisp.net  Sun Dec 12 19:33:39 2004
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:33:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [admin] added rdnzl; owned by eweitz
Message-ID: <20041212193339.F21F3880A8@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2004.12.12.20.33.


From edi at agharta.de  Sun Dec 12 20:11:05 2004
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:11:05 +0100
Subject: [admin] Mailing lists not fully there?
Message-ID: <u1xdvcm5i.fsf@agharta.de>

Huh?  (See below.)  I got the same message for rdnzl-cvs and
rdnzl-announce as well.

Thanks for setting the project up so fast!

Cheers,
Edi.

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From jdz at dir.lv  Mon Dec 13 07:34:21 2004
From: jdz at dir.lv (Janis Dzerins)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:34:21 +0200
Subject: [admin] My username/password
Message-ID: <41BD45FD.8040107@dir.lv>

Hello dear common-lisp.net admins!

After the troubles with the server is my username (jdzerins) still 
active?  And could a password be sent to me, please?

--
Janis Dzerins

   Common Lisp -- you get more than what you see.


From mas01cr at gold.ac.uk  Mon Dec 13 12:06:26 2004
From: mas01cr at gold.ac.uk (Christophe Rhodes)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:06:26 +0000
Subject: [admin] password reset
Message-ID: <1102939586.32662.8.camel@gibbons>

Hi,

Could I please have my password reset for common-lisp.net?  I forgot to
add my new ssh keys before disconnecting my laptop :-/

Cheers,

Christophe

(PS: Goodness knows if this thing comes through properly signed; this
new computer thing is quite scary)
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From mas01cr at gold.ac.uk  Mon Dec 13 12:32:31 2004
From: mas01cr at gold.ac.uk (Christophe Rhodes)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:32:31 +0000
Subject: [admin] cancel password reset
Message-ID: <1102941151.32662.13.camel@gibbons>

Hi,

I have found a valid ssh key which lets me in, so there is no longer any
need to reset my password.  Sorry for the disturbance.

Thanks,

Christophe

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From mas01cr at gold.ac.uk  Thu Dec 16 09:34:38 2004
From: mas01cr at gold.ac.uk (Christophe Rhodes)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 09:34:38 +0000
Subject: [admin] pipermail
Message-ID: <1103189679.5550.8.camel@gibbons>

Hi,

Is the pipermail job ill, or are my commit messages not getting through?

I made some commits to phemlock yesterday, and I was kind of expecting
that cvs syncmail messages would go to phemlock-cvs: but nothing's shown
up at
<http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/phemlock-cvs/2004-December/thread.html>.

Is it possible that phemlock-cvs is not set up to autoapprove
@common-lisp.net?  Or is there some other reason that mails aren't
getting through?

Cheers,

Christophe



From mas01cr at gold.ac.uk  Thu Dec 16 12:03:50 2004
From: mas01cr at gold.ac.uk (Christophe Rhodes)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:03:50 +0000
Subject: [admin] pipermail
In-Reply-To: <fzacse4fvi.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <1103189679.5550.8.camel@gibbons>
	<fzacse4fvi.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
Message-ID: <1103198630.4811.4.camel@gibbons>

On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 12:55 +0100, Mario Mommer wrote:
> Christophe Rhodes <mas01cr at gold.ac.uk> writes:
> > Is the pipermail job ill, or are my commit messages not getting
> > through?
> 
> The latter, probably. Pipermail has done its job on your message to
> admin :-)

So it has.  OK.

> > Is it possible that phemlock-cvs is not set up to autoapprove
> > @common-lisp.net?  Or is there some other reason that mails aren't
> > getting through?
> 
> Mails should be getting through. If mails get rejected, they get
> rejected politely with an MTA error message (that you then will be
> able to see).

So my lovely commits are probably being held in a queue for moderator
approval somewhere?  OK.

> I see the list is managed by gbaumann. Have you asked him about the
> autoapprove?

I'll get onto it, thanks.

Cheers,

Christophe
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From strandh at labri.fr  Wed Dec 22 19:04:12 2004
From: strandh at labri.fr (Robert Strandh)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:04:12 +0100
Subject: [admin] I would like to ask for another project please
Message-ID: <16841.50476.737126.331617@serveur5.labri.fr>

Hello, 

I would like to ask for another project on cl.net, please, if that
would be possible. 

name: climacs

licence: lgpl

description: 

  The purpose of the Climacs project is to create a Common Lisp version
  of Emacs.  In fact, this project is merely meant to replace the buffer
  protocols of Goatee (the editor of McCLIM) and Portable Hemlock, in an
  attempt to ultimately merge those two projects.

  Climacs contributes (or will contribute) a few important things that
  are not found neither in Goatee nor in Portable Hemlock:

     * A buffer protocol with a potentially very efficient
       implementation based on flexichains;

     * An `undo' protocol that is both general and powerful and that
       works on top of the buffer protocol;

     * An implementation of the association between multi-keystroke
       gestures and commands using nested CLIM command tables;

     * The possibility of having the buffer contain arbitrary
       objects. These will be rendered by the CLIM `present' function,
       so that they become clickable in the right context;

     * Syntax highlighting in the form of incremental parsers, especially
       for Common Lisp code. 

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Robert Strandh

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C
or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden
slow implementation of half of Common Lisp.
---------------------------------------------------------------------


From root at common-lisp.net  Thu Dec 23 06:59:05 2004
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:59:05 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [admin] added climacs; owned by rstrandh
Message-ID: <20041223065905.CCF23884FE@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2004.12.23.07.59.


From ejohnson at fasl.info  Fri Dec 24 05:11:06 2004
From: ejohnson at fasl.info (Elliott Johnson)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:11:06 -0800
Subject: [admin] Hi, account setup?
Message-ID: <20041224051106.GB21935@mail.fasl.info>

Hello,

I was directed by Robert Strandh and Dan Barlow to setup
a Common-Lisp.net account.  Here's my public pgp key:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFBy6Pd8abOehv/cAURAvbvAKDM2wE/AE9Nj8b7ftj55QC5OQNLQgCg1mYM
EAfl8iHc8I8VTcpWQKWM/dE=
=BsYq
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

If there's anything else I need to do or provide, please
drop me an email.

Thanks and Merry Christmas Eve,

-Elliott Johnson
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From edi at agharta.de  Mon Dec 27 23:40:26 2004
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:40:26 +0100
Subject: [admin] New developers for RDNZL project
Message-ID: <uis6nwbrp.fsf@agharta.de>

Hi!

For the RDNZL project I'd like to use the CVS repository and add three
developers who should have full access to it.

The names and email addresses of the developers to add are:

  Charles A. Cox <cox at franz.com>
  Vasilis Margioulas <vasilism at sch.gr>
  Roger Corman <roger at corman.net>

Thanks in advance for your help,
Edi.



From strandh at labri.fr  Tue Dec 28 08:29:27 2004
From: strandh at labri.fr (Robert Strandh)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:29:27 +0100
Subject: [admin] [mcclim-devel] CVS checkout 
In-Reply-To: <877jn2eu4x.fsf@fbigm.here>
References: <20041227174407.1062.qmail@web12209.mail.yahoo.com>
	<877jn2eu4x.fsf@fbigm.here>
Message-ID: <16849.6503.667007.729114@serveur5.labri.fr>

Friedrich Dominicus writes:
 > according to the docs this should work
 > cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at common-lisp.net:/project/mcclim/cvsroot login
 > that does work now
 > checking out
 > cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous at common-lisp.net:/project/mcclim/cvsroot co mcclim
 > 
 > does not work.
 > Message is:
 > cvs [checkout aborted]: could not chdir to mcclim: No such file or directory
 > 
 > Well browsing the repository yields:
 > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/?cvsroot=mcclim#dirlist
 > 
 > with mcclim as the only directory there. So why can't one get this
 > stuff?

I don't know, but perhaps a cl.net administrator could answer.

-- 
Robert Strandh

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C
or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden
slow implementation of half of Common Lisp.
---------------------------------------------------------------------


From mmommer at common-lisp.net  Tue Dec 28 15:01:45 2004
From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:01:45 +0100
Subject: [admin] [mcclim-devel] CVS checkout
In-Reply-To: <16849.6503.667007.729114@serveur5.labri.fr>
References: <20041227174407.1062.qmail@web12209.mail.yahoo.com>
	<877jn2eu4x.fsf@fbigm.here>
	<16849.6503.667007.729114@serveur5.labri.fr>
Message-ID: <fzr7la4gbq.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Robert Strandh <strandh at labri.fr> writes:
> Friedrich Dominicus writes:
>  > according to the docs this should work
>  > cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at common-lisp.net:/project/mcclim/cvsroot login
>  > that does work now
>  > checking out
>  > cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous at common-lisp.net:/project/mcclim/cvsroot co mcclim
>  > 
>  > does not work.
>  > Message is:
>  > cvs [checkout aborted]: could not chdir to mcclim: No such file or directory
>  > 
>  > Well browsing the repository yields:
>  > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/?cvsroot=mcclim#dirlist
>  > 
>  > with mcclim as the only directory there. So why can't one get this
>  > stuff?
>
> I don't know, but perhaps a cl.net administrator could answer.

Unfortunately, copy and pasting to a terminal here the attempted
commands above (the first two lines beginning with cvs) works without
any problems. I'm running slackware 10.0, which in these regards tends
to be as vanilla as it gets.

Regards,
        Mario.



From mmommer at common-lisp.net  Tue Dec 28 15:30:27 2004
From: mmommer at common-lisp.net (Mario Mommer)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:30:27 +0100
Subject: [admin] New developers for RDNZL project
In-Reply-To: <uis6nwbrp.fsf@agharta.de>
References: <uis6nwbrp.fsf@agharta.de>
Message-ID: <fzbrce4ezw.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Hi,

Edi Weitz <edi at agharta.de> writes:
> For the RDNZL project I'd like to use the CVS repository and add three
> developers who should have full access to it.
>
> The names and email addresses of the developers to add are:
>
>   Charles A. Cox <cox at franz.com>
>   Vasilis Margioulas <vasilism at sch.gr>
>   Roger Corman <roger at corman.net>
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,

No problem!

I just need the PGP keys for each.

Regards,
        Mario.



From nyef at sc.am  Tue Dec 28 17:34:37 2004
From: nyef at sc.am (Nyef)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:34:37 -0500
Subject: [admin] CVS access to Climacs?
Message-ID: <20041228173437.GA25486@sc.am>

Hello.

Robert Strandh asked that I be granted CVS access to Climacs. In order 
to accomplish this, mommer asked me on IRC to send my GPG key here. 
Hopefully I'm doing this right.

-- 
--Alastair Bridgewater
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From edi at agharta.de  Wed Dec 29 11:02:49 2004
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:02:49 +0100
Subject: [admin] Project listings
Message-ID: <uoegdbc4m.fsf@agharta.de>

Hi!

I have two corrections for the project listings at

  <http://common-lisp.net/projects.shtml>:

1. RDNZL is listed under "Graphics" but should be under "Interfacing."

2. TBNL's description says it's "based on mod_lisp and cl-modlisp." My
   fault, that should be "based on mod_lisp and KMRCL."

Cheers,
Edi.