From gilham at csl.sri.com  Wed Apr 21 19:26:11 2004
From: gilham at csl.sri.com (Fred Gilham)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:26:11 -0700
Subject: [admin] Re: CMUCL on Common-lisp.net 
In-Reply-To: Message from Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola@cc.hut.fi> of "Fri,
	19 Mar 2004 16:52:21 +0200."
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0403191647060.365464@kosh.hut.fi> 
Message-ID: <200404211926.i3LJQBlw023163@snapdragon.csl.sri.com>


Hello,

I'd like to be added as a member of the CMUCL project on
common-lisp.net.

My PGP public key, as a uuencoded file, follows.  I hope this is OK;
if not, let me know.


begin 600 pubring.pgp
MF0$-`T"&R at 8```$(`,4N.`TKS=ZEO#4EILXNF. at 0=QML-D%C2D=K%M,5Q?P'
M;CC7X36;-?3VHR41JY9KV8]W,;Z56B\[*RWGVBJJPV4H0=+-)O88T3ZI*O1+
M5TUM'K4XR6TY(6GBL/NO50DYE^GX(W2^X?>CV2$#H,DI22(5=N1I4K[)9"K]
MI$^?C]QS"['X`$65PUDOI1C+UK9;YA*]<@M/2,EJ0>.\`,7'BAQ4B@[MT`OK
M:0&FJ/*1S$,9?*I<3UE8-'^8FOLQ_59"8P9 at X>Z7^33)+U1.G\1]BM+1L>S+
MW8'R"6A?2T^#="E6D,2^SR at T),FOX\Y2-6?RUMO:\#)=YXGA at 5F8;:";D84`
M!1&P`8>T*$9R960 at 32X@1VEL:&%M+"!*<BX@/&=I;&AA;4!C<VPN<W)I+F-O
M;3ZP`0.)`14#!1!`ALH\@5F8;:";D84!`2;[!_]LC8_WL("P78:GZO^]GVZ]
M;I\#)U[.@<1]498QT*NZJ+@%!7A4S&P0=9^S-.#>M7AI">3PF!A'R[C75=2+
MYDF('G']_9&<<_ORJ5"-^'1N'B(.UV!*83<>B(\IS>'H?:_.P'+^+>3/49 at 2
MH:%;O[+9-KAGP-8XY&#C.I.&(``[OQ_I0$?INMRVI3XG#,<5>)+=Y;33?ESQ
MME]!TXPI&A'/I>A-,7393[4=OZ)"S,?7,-M`A\8YH-C2!6DA1X*>9L+,B^73
M#7]7X!9`HCU)]'M_X*%38HPA%!:FT.GLJ"WU,\LSQAUU/PPV&?BBM[ZS$<5%
2&$"MPA4CFN5,3,9KTTT$L`''
`
end

-- 
Fred Gilham gilham at csl.sri.com || GOVERNMENT: A large charity
organization with a coercive fund-raising arm.  PUBLIC SCHOOLS:
Government-run (see above) schools with coercive admissions
departments.



From christian at defun.dk  Thu Apr  1 05:06:48 2004
From: christian at defun.dk (Christian Lynbech)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 07:06:48 +0200
Subject: [admin] maillist administration
References: <87y8pgx1gw.fsf@baguette.defun.dk>
	<mailman.151.1080764922.19196.admin@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <87lllgthg7.fsf@baguette.defun.dk>

>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:

Erik> When they were created you should've received some emails with
Erik> the password in them.  Did you get those emalis?

How utterly embarrasing, yes I did, I just forgot about it. Sorry
about that.

                             -- Christian




From luke at balooga.com  Wed Apr  7 15:43:16 2004
From: luke at balooga.com (Luke J Crook)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:43:16 -0700
Subject: [admin] Creating a project
Message-ID: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>

Greetings,

I would like to gain access to CVS for my Lisp project.

Name:             Luke Crook
Description:     FFI bindings for Corman Common Lisp 
(http://www.cormanlisp.com) to SDL (http://www.libsdl.org)
Members:        Luke Crook
Name of Proj:   Corman-SDL ( http://www.balooga.com/lisp_sdl.php3 )
License:            As yet undecided. Either BSD, MIT, LGPL or LLGPL

Regards,
-Luke Crook



From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Wed Apr  7 15:50:57 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 17:50:57 +0200
Subject: [admin] Creating a project
In-Reply-To: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
References: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
Message-ID: <fzr7uz6b32.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Luke J Crook <luke at balooga.com> writes:
> Greetings,
> 
> I would like to gain access to CVS for my Lisp project.
>
> Name:             Luke Crook
> Description:     FFI bindings for Corman Common Lisp
> (http://www.cormanlisp.com) to SDL (http://www.libsdl.org)
> Members:        Luke Crook
> Name of Proj:   Corman-SDL ( http://www.balooga.com/lisp_sdl.php3 )
> License:            As yet undecided. Either BSD, MIT, LGPL or LLGPL

I, for my part, approve.

Regards,
        Mario.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Fri Apr  9 13:15:18 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:15:18 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Creating a project
In-Reply-To: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
References: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404091610220.275573@kosh.hut.fi>

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Luke J Crook wrote:

> Name:             Luke Crook
> Description:     FFI bindings for Corman Common Lisp
> (http://www.cormanlisp.com) to SDL (http://www.libsdl.org)
> Members:        Luke Crook
> Name of Proj:   Corman-SDL ( http://www.balooga.com/lisp_sdl.php3 )
> License:            As yet undecided. Either BSD, MIT, LGPL or LLGPL

Approved, though I'd prefer to know the license beforehand... ;)

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola

PS. Just curious: I assume that you are aware of the "other"
cl-sdl -- why make a separate project for Corman? Is it
an issue with the basic design, or the desire to have simpler
bindings by supporting just one implementation or what?



From luke at balooga.com  Fri Apr  9 15:19:52 2004
From: luke at balooga.com (Luke J Crook)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:19:52 -0700
Subject: [admin] Creating a project
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404091610220.275573@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0404091610220.275573@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <4076BF18.4030904@balooga.com>

Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

>On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Luke J Crook wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Name:             Luke Crook
>>Description:     FFI bindings for Corman Common Lisp
>>(http://www.cormanlisp.com) to SDL (http://www.libsdl.org)
>>Members:        Luke Crook
>>Name of Proj:   Corman-SDL ( http://www.balooga.com/lisp_sdl.php3 )
>>License:            As yet undecided. Either BSD, MIT, LGPL or LLGPL
>>    
>>
>
>Approved, though I'd prefer to know the license beforehand... ;)
>
>  
>
I've decided to go with the same license as CL-SDL, namely BSD.

>PS. Just curious: I assume that you are aware of the "other"
>cl-sdl -- why make a separate project for Corman? Is it
>an issue with the basic design, or the desire to have simpler
>bindings by supporting just one implementation or what?
>
>  
>
Unfortunately Corman does not support the UFFI otherwise I would 
definitely be contributing to cl-sdl. Corman's FFI model does offer some 
advantages however, interfacing to Microsoft COM objects are relatively 
easy, as are callbacks from foreign code. And Corman has a really useful 
C to FFI parser that converts around 80% of the sdl header files 
automatically.

-Luke




From erik at nittin.net  Sun Apr 11 18:16:32 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:16:32 -0400
Subject: [admin] Creating a project
In-Reply-To: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
References: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
Message-ID: <5C80AFCC-8BE4-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 7, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Luke J Crook wrote:

> I would like to gain access to CVS for my Lisp project.

Sorry for the delay, I have been ill for a little while.  Can I have 
your PGP/GPG
public key?

Erik.




From luke at balooga.com  Mon Apr 12 07:25:18 2004
From: luke at balooga.com (Luke J Crook)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:25:18 -0700
Subject: [admin] Creating a project
In-Reply-To: <5C80AFCC-8BE4-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
	<5C80AFCC-8BE4-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <407A445E.2020300@balooga.com>

Erik Enge wrote:

>
> On Apr 7, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Luke J Crook wrote:
>
>> I would like to gain access to CVS for my Lisp project.
>
>
> Sorry for the delay, I have been ill for a little while.  Can I have 
> your PGP/GPG
> public key?
>
> Erik.
>
>
>
I've not done this before, so hopefully this is correct.

pub  1024D/21EA3C17 2004-04-12 Luke John Crook (Luke Crook) 
<luke at balooga.com>
     Key fingerprint = BFD9 F4B1 B621 FFD9 D9DA  BBA3 8629 0C01 21EA 3C17
sub  2048g/390EBD1B 2004-04-12

-Luke



From luke at balooga.com  Mon Apr 12 07:37:53 2004
From: luke at balooga.com (Luke J Crook)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:37:53 -0700
Subject: [admin] Creating a project
In-Reply-To: <5C80AFCC-8BE4-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <40742194.3010603@balooga.com>
	<5C80AFCC-8BE4-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <407A4751.1050300@balooga.com>

Erik Enge wrote:

>
> On Apr 7, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Luke J Crook wrote:
>
>> I would like to gain access to CVS for my Lisp project.
>
>
> Sorry for the delay, I have been ill for a little while.  Can I have 
> your PGP/GPG
> public key?
>
> Erik.
>
>
>
Apologies, here is my actual public key.

-Luke

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Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32)

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From jtdubs at eos.ncsu.edu  Wed Apr  7 21:46:30 2004
From: jtdubs at eos.ncsu.edu (Justin Dubs)
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:46:30 -0400
Subject: [admin] Project hosting request
Message-ID: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>

Hi,

I have an ASDF system called cl-lambda-shorthand that I was wondering 
if you would be interested in hosting.  It was developed by myself, 
Justin Dubs, and is under the MIT license.

Basically, it provides a shorthand for anonymous functions by making 
use of the #L dispatching macro character.  This way you can say:

(mapcar #L(+ 1) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))
=> (6 8 10)

or

(mapcar #L(+ _ (* 2 _)) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))
=> (9 12 15)

It also provides shorthand for defining 'constantly' functions (ie. #L5 
== (lambda (&rest args) 5)) and more.

Thank you,
Justin Dubs

"If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create 
the universe."
	- Carl Sagan




From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Fri Apr  9 12:40:01 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:40:01 +0200
Subject: [admin] Project hosting request
In-Reply-To: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>
References: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <fz4qrt9vfi.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>

Justin Dubs <jtdubs at eos.ncsu.edu> writes:
> I have an ASDF system called cl-lambda-shorthand that I was wondering
> if you would be interested in hosting.  It was developed by myself,
> Justin Dubs, and is under the MIT license.

Well - the real question is if you think this merits a project of its
own :-)

Erik, Nikodemus, what do you think?

I sometimes wonder if we should create an "extensions" umbrella
project for this kind of thing.

In any case, if you think that this merits a project of its own, I do
not see any major (nor minor) problem.

Now, completely unrelated to that issue: 

> Basically, it provides a shorthand for anonymous functions by making
> use of the #L dispatching macro character.  This way you can say:
> 
> (mapcar #L(+ 1) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))
> => (6 8 10)

Well. What happens with

  (mapcar #L(- 1) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))

or

  (mapcar #L(/ 2) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))

?

> or
> 
> (mapcar #L(+ _ (* 2 _)) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))
> => (9 12 15)

So the first _ is the first variable, and the second one the second?
To be honest, this does not seem to me to be such a good idea.

Regards,
        Mario.




From jtdubs at ncsu.edu  Fri Apr  9 14:14:03 2004
From: jtdubs at ncsu.edu (jtdubs at ncsu.edu)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:14:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [admin] Project hosting request
In-Reply-To: <fz4qrt9vfi.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>
	<fz4qrt9vfi.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
Message-ID: <60821.129.33.49.251.1081520043.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu>

> Justin Dubs <jtdubs at eos.ncsu.edu> writes:
>> I have an ASDF system called cl-lambda-shorthand that I was wondering
>> if you would be interested in hosting.  It was developed by myself,
>> Justin Dubs, and is under the MIT license.
>
> Well - the real question is if you think this merits a project of its
> own :-)

I really don't know if it merits being it's own project.  I find it to be
useful on occasion, and I thought it was possible that others might as
well.  I can host it myself, starting in a few months, if you guys don't
want it.

> Erik, Nikodemus, what do you think?
>
> I sometimes wonder if we should create an "extensions" umbrella
> project for this kind of thing.
>
> In any case, if you think that this merits a project of its own, I do
> not see any major (nor minor) problem.
>
> Now, completely unrelated to that issue:
>
>> Basically, it provides a shorthand for anonymous functions by making
>> use of the #L dispatching macro character.  This way you can say:
>>
>> (mapcar #L(+ 1) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))
>> => (6 8 10)
>
> Well. What happens with
>
>   (mapcar #L(- 1) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))
>
> or
>
>   (mapcar #L(/ 2) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))

If no positional or anonymous arguments are found in the form (I'll
explain what they are in a bit), then a lambda is created which takes a
&rest parameter and #'apply's the function to the rest of the form and the
&rest parameter.

So:

#L(- 1 2 3) => (lambda (&rest #:REST01)
                 (declare (ignore #:REST01))
                 (apply #'- 1 2 3 #:REST01))

(mapcar #L(- 1) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6)) => (-4 -6 -8)
(mapcar #L(/ 2) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6)) => (1/2 1/5 1/9)

If you wanted a function to divide something by two, you would use #L(/ _
2)...

>> (mapcar #L(+ _ (* 2 _)) '(1 2 3) '(4 5 6))
>> => (9 12 15)
>
> So the first _ is the first variable, and the second one the second?
> To be honest, this does not seem to me to be such a good idea.

If you saw the rest of the syntax, it might make more sense.  The form
after the #L is checked for anonymous arguments (ie. '_') and postional
arguments (ie. $2, $5 and $10).  You can only use one of the two kinds of
arguments in a given form.

Anonymous arguments become parameters of the generated lambda in
left-to-right order.

Positional arguments become parameters of the generated lambda at offsets
corresponding with their numbers.

So, if you want control over where things end up, you can do this:

#L(- $2 $1) => (lambda (x y) (- y x))
#L(- $3 $1) => (lambda (x unused y) (- y x))
#L(list $1 $1) => (lambda (x) (list x x))

If the form after the #L is an atom, then it generates a constantly function:

#L5 => (lambda (&rest args) 5)
#Lx => (lambda (&rest args) x)

I hope that makes things more clear.  As to whether or not you guys want
to host it and where you want to host it, it doesn't really matter to me
one way or the other.  Let me know what you think the right thing to do
it, and I'll go with it.

Justin Dubs



From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Sat Apr 10 08:45:15 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:45:15 +0200
Subject: [admin] Project hosting request
In-Reply-To: <60821.129.33.49.251.1081520043.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu>
References: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>
	<fz4qrt9vfi.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
	<60821.129.33.49.251.1081520043.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <fz3c7crzl0.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>

jtdubs at ncsu.edu writes:
> > Justin Dubs <jtdubs at eos.ncsu.edu> writes:
> >> I have an ASDF system called cl-lambda-shorthand that I was wondering
> >> if you would be interested in hosting.  It was developed by myself,
> >> Justin Dubs, and is under the MIT license.
> >
> > Well - the real question is if you think this merits a project of its
> > own :-)
> 
> I really don't know if it merits being it's own project.  I find it to be
> useful on occasion, and I thought it was possible that others might as
> well.  I can host it myself, starting in a few months, if you guys don't
> want it.

Before we stray into a misunderstanding: you asked if we wanted to
host it, and I replied, do you want us to host it? If you want us to
host it, we will host it. It is your decision - sorry if this sounds
like splitting hairs, but clear communication and statement of intent
is important.

The comment on whether it merits its own project was not us rejecting
it, but essentially brainstorming on the status and size of the
project. Again, my criticisms are mine, and not any "official"
position.

[...]
> I hope that makes things more clear.

Indeed.

> As to whether or not you guys want to host it and where you want to
> host it, it doesn't really matter to me one way or the other.  Let
> me know what you think the right thing to do it, and I'll go with
> it.

If it doesn't matter to you, why should we host it? We do not collect
software, we provide hosting.

Regards,
        Mario.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Sat Apr 10 09:06:27 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:06:27 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Project hosting request
In-Reply-To: <fz3c7crzl0.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>
	<fz4qrt9vfi.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
	<60821.129.33.49.251.1081520043.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu>
	<fz3c7crzl0.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404101158420.14614@kosh.hut.fi>

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, Mario Mommer wrote:

> The comment on whether it merits its own project was not us rejecting
> it, but essentially brainstorming on the status and size of the
> project. Again, my criticisms are mine, and not any "official"
> position.

Ditto here. Officially:

 * The project has been approved.

 * It will be created once you say that "yes, I want separate
   hosting for it". Alternatively you could eg. say "hmm, actually
   i have / will have other smallish utilities, so jdubs-utils
   might be more appropriate", or whatever. In which case the
   corresponding action will be taken.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola



From jtdubs at eos.ncsu.edu  Sat Apr 10 23:22:00 2004
From: jtdubs at eos.ncsu.edu (Justin Dubs)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:22:00 -0400
Subject: [admin] Project hosting request
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404101158420.14614@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>
	<fz4qrt9vfi.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
	<60821.129.33.49.251.1081520043.squirrel@webmail.ncsu.edu>
	<fz3c7crzl0.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0404101158420.14614@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <DDFAF732-8B45-11D8-A12A-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>

The more I think about it, the more it seems I'd be better off just 
throwing up a page on cliki and hosting the actual code myself.  It's 
just a small utility and doesn't really need hosting as it's not in 
development anymore.  It's pretty much done.

I think I misunderstood the purpose of common-lisp.net.  I thought the 
goal was to become something akin a central repository of all 
lisp-related code.  I realize now that you guys just want to provide 
hosting for projects that need it.

I'll be in touch when I get my real project to a more useful point.  
Sorry to have wasted your time.

Justin Dubs

"One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, 
lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of 
their C programs."
	- Robert Firth

On Apr 10, 2004, at 5:06 AM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, Mario Mommer wrote:
>
>> The comment on whether it merits its own project was not us rejecting
>> it, but essentially brainstorming on the status and size of the
>> project. Again, my criticisms are mine, and not any "official"
>> position.
>
> Ditto here. Officially:
>
>  * The project has been approved.
>
>  * It will be created once you say that "yes, I want separate
>    hosting for it". Alternatively you could eg. say "hmm, actually
>    i have / will have other smallish utilities, so jdubs-utils
>    might be more appropriate", or whatever. In which case the
>    corresponding action will be taken.
>
> Cheers,
>
>  -- Nikodemus Siivola
>




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Fri Apr  9 13:10:09 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:10:09 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Project hosting request
In-Reply-To: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>
References: <07D210E4-88DD-11D8-BB19-000A95AC86E6@eos.ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404091606050.275573@kosh.hut.fi>

> I have an ASDF system called cl-lambda-shorthand that I was wondering
> if you would be interested in hosting.  It was developed by myself,
> Justin Dubs, and is under the MIT license.

Approved, though I echo most of Marios thoughs here. As an alternative
I'd point out the possibility to make you a personal umbrella project
"jdubbs-utils" (it's not without precedent, after all).

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola



From amoroso at mclink.it  Sun Apr 11 16:42:29 2004
From: amoroso at mclink.it (Paolo Amoroso)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:42:29 +0200
Subject: [admin] Problem downloading CMUCL snapshot from ftp.common-lisp.net
Message-ID: <87n05i5uve.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it>

When I try to download the latest CMUCL snapshot at:

  ftp://ftp.common-lisp.net/pub/project/cmucl/snapshots/2004/04/

with wget 1.8.1 under Debian Woody, I get the following error:

paolo at plato:~/download$ wget ftp://ftp.common-lisp.net/pub/project/cmucl/snapshots/2004/04/cmucl-2004-04-x86-linux.tar.bz2
--18:40:38--  ftp://ftp.common-lisp.net/pub/project/cmucl/snapshots/2004/04/cmucl-2004-04-x86-linux.tar.bz2
           => `cmucl-2004-04-x86-linux.tar.bz2'
Resolving ftp.common-lisp.net... done.
Connecting to ftp.common-lisp.net[69.55.225.117]:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.    ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /pub/project/cmucl/snapshots/2004/04 ... done.
==> PORT ... done.    ==> RETR cmucl-2004-04-x86-linux.tar.bz2 ...
Error in server response, closing control connection.
Retrying.

The download works just fine with a web browser, but I prefer wget
because I have a dial-up connection.  I am not sure whether the
problem is related to some settings of the cmucl project at
Common-Lisp.net, or is just a stupid mistake of mine.


Paolo
-- 
Why Lisp? http://alu.cliki.net/RtL%20Highlight%20Film



From erik at nittin.net  Sun Apr 11 18:21:14 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:21:14 -0400
Subject: [admin] Problem downloading CMUCL snapshot from
	ftp.common-lisp.net
In-Reply-To: <87n05i5uve.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it>
References: <87n05i5uve.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it>
Message-ID: <043F8F44-8BE5-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 11, 2004, at 12:42 PM, Paolo Amoroso wrote:

> I am not sure whether the problem is related to some settings of the 
> cmucl project at
> Common-Lisp.net, or is just a stupid mistake of mine.

I don't know either, but trying with GNU wget 1.8.1 works fine for me.  
Can anyone else
reproduce this?

Erik.




From amoroso at mclink.it  Mon Apr 12 15:01:35 2004
From: amoroso at mclink.it (Paolo Amoroso)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:01:35 +0200
Subject: [admin] Problem downloading CMUCL snapshot from
	ftp.common-lisp.net
References: <87n05i5uve.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it>
	<043F8F44-8BE5-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <87smf9i6k0.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it>

Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:

> I don't know either, but trying with GNU wget 1.8.1 works fine for me.

Never mind, it was a firewall-related issue, as suggested by running
wget in debug mode with option `-d'.  Using passive mode with option
`--passive-ftp' worked fine.


Paolo
-- 
Why Lisp? http://alu.cliki.net/RtL%20Highlight%20Film



From root at common-lisp.net  Mon Apr 12 12:44:00 2004
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:44:00 -0400
Subject: [admin] added corman-sdl; owned by lcrook
Message-ID: <E1BD0nA-0000oA-00@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2004.04.12.08.44.



From erik at nittin.net  Mon Apr 12 13:00:22 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:00:22 -0400
Subject: [admin] taxonomy
Message-ID: <5BFBEFE8-8C81-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>

Hi, Mario,

I've added the corman-sdl project, how do I add it to the taxonomy?

Erik.




From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Mon Apr 12 13:05:05 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:05:05 +0200
Subject: [admin] Re: taxonomy
In-Reply-To: <5BFBEFE8-8C81-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <5BFBEFE8-8C81-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <fzisg5iby6.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>

Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:
> Hi, Mario,
> 
> I've added the corman-sdl project, how do I add it to the taxonomy?

I'll do it. Will be later today, sorry.

Regards,
        Mario.




From lgorrie at common-lisp.net  Tue Apr 13 09:31:10 2004
From: lgorrie at common-lisp.net (Luke Gorrie)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:31:10 +0200
Subject: [admin] [Luke J Crook] [slime-cvs] CVS update: Module imported:
	CVSROOT
Message-ID: <lhbrlw2pi9.fsf@dodo.bluetail.com>

FYI, slime-cvs seems to have got this commit message from another project.

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From erik at nittin.net  Tue Apr 13 15:27:25 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:27:25 -0400
Subject: [admin] [Luke J Crook] [slime-cvs] CVS update: Module imported:
	CVSROOT
In-Reply-To: <lhbrlw2pi9.fsf@dodo.bluetail.com>
References: <lhbrlw2pi9.fsf@dodo.bluetail.com>
Message-ID: <10EC7C90-8D5F-11D8-B59F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 13, 2004, at 5:31 AM, Luke Gorrie wrote:

> FYI, slime-cvs seems to have got this commit message from another 
> project.

corman-sdl has been having some problems after Luke accidentally
wacked his CVSROOT directory.  Perhaps these are related, I'll look
into it.

Erik.




From mb at bese.it  Thu Apr 15 17:36:02 2004
From: mb at bese.it (Marco Baringer)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:36:02 +0200
Subject: [admin] ViewARCH repo update
Message-ID: <m2vfk187p9.fsf@bese.it>


i'd need the following two archives added to ViewARCH:

/project/bese/public_html/bese-2004 at common-lisp.net
/project/ucw/public_html/ucw-2004 at common-lisp.net

-- 
-Marco
Ring the bells that still can ring.
Forget your perfect offering.
There is a crack in everything.
That's how the light gets in.
     -Leonard Cohen




From erik at nittin.net  Thu Apr 15 19:42:46 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:42:46 -0400
Subject: [admin] ViewARCH repo update
In-Reply-To: <m2vfk187p9.fsf@bese.it>
References: <m2vfk187p9.fsf@bese.it>
Message-ID: <11AFB419-8F15-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 15, 2004, at 1:36 PM, Marco Baringer wrote:

> /project/ucw/public_html/ucw-2004 at common-lisp.net

Erik.




From erik at nittin.net  Thu Apr 15 19:42:56 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:42:56 -0400
Subject: [admin] ViewARCH repo update
In-Reply-To: <m2vfk187p9.fsf@bese.it>
References: <m2vfk187p9.fsf@bese.it>
Message-ID: <17D9007C-8F15-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 15, 2004, at 1:36 PM, Marco Baringer wrote:

> i'd need the following two archives added to ViewARCH:

Done.

Erik.




From david at david-steuber.com  Sat Apr 17 03:17:16 2004
From: david at david-steuber.com (David Steuber)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:17:16 -0000
Subject: [admin] Re: Not getting list mail
Message-ID: <m2n05bi98k.fsf@david-steuber.com>

Luke Gorrie <luke <at> bluetail.com> writes:

>David Steuber <david <at> david-steuber.com> writes:
>
>> Mail from slime-devel doesn't seem to be reaching me.  I'm not sure
>> what the problem is.  I didn't even realize I had gotten replies to
>> my last post until I saw mention of the gmane.org having an archive
>> of the list on c.l.l.  Does anyone have any ideas about what the
>> problem might be?
>
>No. Currently you are listed as subscribed and with delivery
>enabled. I can't find any reason why you shouldn't be getting the
>mails.
>
>If you only see this message in Gmane, and don't get it in the mail,
>please let me know with Cc: to admin <at> common-lisp.net.
>
>-Luke

I'm using postini as a spam filter and checked with that.  No
slime-devel mail there.  I even added a rule to make sure that
comnon-lisp.net can send me mail.

I don't know what the weirdness is.  slime-devel-request was able to
send me confirmation that I joined the list.  According to the
headers, that mail came through the postini filter.  This was before
I checked with postini.  I only looked there when I found out about
gmane and wondered why I hadn't seen any of the mail.

Please let me know what other information you need.

I hate computers.

Thanks.

-- 
I wouldn't mind the rat race so much if it wasn't for all the damn cats.



From erik at nittin.net  Sun Apr 18 14:02:44 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:02:44 -0400
Subject: [admin] Re: Not getting list mail
In-Reply-To: <m2n05bi98k.fsf@david-steuber.com>
References: <m2n05bi98k.fsf@david-steuber.com>
Message-ID: <1096E866-9141-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>

On Apr 16, 2004, at 11:17 PM, David Steuber wrote:

> I don't know what the weirdness is.  slime-devel-request was able to
> send me confirmation that I joined the list.  According to the
> headers, that mail came through the postini filter.  This was before
> I checked with postini.  I only looked there when I found out about
> gmane and wondered why I hadn't seen any of the mail.

According to the mailserver (Exim) log files, emails are being sent to 
you.
Is anyone else experiencing this?

Erik.




From david at david-steuber.com  Mon Apr 19 03:01:38 2004
From: david at david-steuber.com (David Steuber)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 03:01:38 -0000
Subject: [admin] Re: Not getting list mail
In-Reply-To: <1096E866-9141-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <m2n05bi98k.fsf@david-steuber.com>
	<1096E866-9141-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <m2ekql6pps.fsf@david-steuber.com>

Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:

> On Apr 16, 2004, at 11:17 PM, David Steuber wrote:
> 
> > I don't know what the weirdness is.  slime-devel-request was able to
> > send me confirmation that I joined the list.  According to the
> > headers, that mail came through the postini filter.  This was before
> > I checked with postini.  I only looked there when I found out about
> > gmane and wondered why I hadn't seen any of the mail.
> 
> According to the mailserver (Exim) log files, emails are being sent to
> you.
> Is anyone else experiencing this?

I found the problem on my end.  I'm using GNUS and created a seperate
group for slime-devel mail.  Then I forgot to subscribe that group.
Stupid user error.  Sorry.

-- 
I wouldn't mind the rat race so much if it wasn't for all the damn cats.



From mikel at evins.net  Sat Apr 17 15:34:07 2004
From: mikel at evins.net (mikel evins)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 08:34:07 -0700
Subject: [admin] misplaced admin password
Message-ID: <AA115ABC-9084-11D8-A6ED-000A958E5B06@evins.net>

I seem to have misplaced my admin password for the alpaca-announce 
list. (I seem to have all the other passwords cl.net sent me).

A raft of messages are accumulating in the queue for my approval or 
rejection and I can't do anything about them. Can you folks offer any 
help?

Thanks,

--me

----------
"[W]e were after the C++ programmers.  We managed to drag a lot of them 
about halfway to Lisp.  Aren't you happy?"

  [Guy Steele, of Sun Microsystems Labs, about designing Java]




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Tue Apr 20 12:15:54 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:15:54 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Mailman woes
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404201514240.511734@kosh.hut.fi>

It seems that mailman has once again decided that we have
no publicly accessible lists -- at least not any that it
wants to show on the webpage.

What was the cause last time?

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From erik at nittin.net  Tue Apr 20 12:29:50 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:29:50 -0400
Subject: [admin] Mailman woes
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404201514240.511734@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404201514240.511734@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <6B15E9B6-92C6-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 20, 2004, at 8:15 AM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> It seems that mailman has once again decided that we have
> no publicly accessible lists -- at least not any that it
> wants to show on the webpage.
>
> What was the cause last time?

IIRC, it was never fixed.  I believe we wrote it off as a limit, after 
x mailinglists
Mailman won't bother to try to list them.

Erik.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Tue Apr 20 12:31:01 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:31:01 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Mailman woes
In-Reply-To: <6B15E9B6-92C6-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404201514240.511734@kosh.hut.fi>
	<6B15E9B6-92C6-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404201530130.511734@kosh.hut.fi>

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Erik Enge wrote:

> IIRC, it was never fixed.  I believe we wrote it off as a limit, after
> x mailinglists
> Mailman won't bother to try to list them.

Wierd, because unless I'm mistaken for a while again it did show them...

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From airdh at hitel.net  Wed Apr 21 07:03:47 2004
From: airdh at hitel.net (¹Ú´ÞÈ£)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:03:47 +0900
Subject: [admin] Server error report: page open failed...
Message-ID: <E1BGBly-0006ik-00@common-lisp.net>

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://mailman.common-lisp.net/pipermail/admin/attachments/20040421/c5f54dc4/attachment.html>

From erik at nittin.net  Wed Apr 21 17:05:13 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:05:13 -0400
Subject: [admin] Server error report: page open failed...
In-Reply-To: <E1BGBly-0006ik-00@common-lisp.net>
References: <E1BGBly-0006ik-00@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <0E0042BE-93B6-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 21, 2004, at 3:03 AM, ?????? wrote:

>  i tried to browse into directory of a project in gnu arch  
> repostory(http://www.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/viewarch.cgi/ 
> clotnet at common-lisp.net/ecma-335--main--0.0--base-0/), got an error.

I am not familiar with ViewARCH myself but it looks like this is the  
correct URL:

http://www.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/viewarch.cgi/clotnet at common- 
lisp.net/ecma-335--main--0.0--base-0

(Note no slash on the end.)

Erik.




From marcoxa at cs.nyu.edu  Wed Apr 21 17:27:26 2004
From: marcoxa at cs.nyu.edu (Marco Antoniotti)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:27:26 -0400
Subject: [admin] CL-SBML
Message-ID: <28AB3D96-93B9-11D8-9224-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu>

Hi

I want to create another project in common-lisp.net. I want to call it 
CL-SBML.  It is an implementation of a parser for SBML level 2 
(www.sbml.org).  This will be of interest to people doing 
bioinformatics out there.

The license will be Berkeley style.

My common-lisp.net id is mantoniotti.

Cheers

marco

--
Marco Antoniotti					http://bioinformatics.nyu.edu
NYU Courant Bioinformatics Group		tel. +1 - 212 - 998 3488
715 Broadway 10th FL				fax. +1 - 212 - 998 3484
New York, NY, 10003, U.S.A.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Wed Apr 21 17:30:01 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 20:30:01 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] CL-SBML
In-Reply-To: <28AB3D96-93B9-11D8-9224-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu>
References: <28AB3D96-93B9-11D8-9224-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404212029380.338181@kosh.hut.fi>

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Marco Antoniotti wrote:

> I want to create another project in common-lisp.net. I want to call it
> CL-SBML.  It is an implementation of a parser for SBML level 2
> (www.sbml.org).  This will be of interest to people doing
> bioinformatics out there.
>
> The license will be Berkeley style.

Approved,

 -- Nikodemus Siivola



From marcoxa at cs.nyu.edu  Wed Apr 21 18:31:49 2004
From: marcoxa at cs.nyu.edu (Marco Antoniotti)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:31:49 -0400
Subject: [admin] CL-SBML
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404212029380.338181@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <27314DB8-93C2-11D8-9224-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu>

Greate thanks.

please re-use all my passwords for the setup.

marco



On Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004, at 13:30 America/New_York, Nikodemus 
Siivola wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Marco Antoniotti wrote:
>
>> I want to create another project in common-lisp.net. I want to call it
>> CL-SBML.  It is an implementation of a parser for SBML level 2
>> (www.sbml.org).  This will be of interest to people doing
>> bioinformatics out there.
>>
>> The license will be Berkeley style.
>
> Approved,
>
>  -- Nikodemus Siivola
>
--
Marco Antoniotti					http://bioinformatics.nyu.edu
NYU Courant Bioinformatics Group		tel. +1 - 212 - 998 3488
715 Broadway 10th FL				fax. +1 - 212 - 998 3484
New York, NY, 10003, U.S.A.




From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Wed Apr 21 17:31:48 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:31:48 +0200
Subject: [admin] CL-SBML
In-Reply-To: <28AB3D96-93B9-11D8-9224-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu>
References: <28AB3D96-93B9-11D8-9224-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <fz7jw9fda3.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Marco Antoniotti <marcoxa at cs.nyu.edu> writes:
> Hi
>
> I want to create another project in common-lisp.net. I want to call it
> CL-SBML.  It is an implementation of a parser for SBML level 2
> (www.sbml.org).  This will be of interest to people doing
> bioinformatics out there.
>
> The license will be Berkeley style.

I approve.

Regards,
        Mario.




From root at common-lisp.net  Wed Apr 21 18:48:22 2004
From: root at common-lisp.net (root)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:48:22 -0400
Subject: [admin] added cl-sbml; owned by mantoniotti
Message-ID: <E1BGMli-0002Ef-00@common-lisp.net>

Add successful at 2004.04.21.14.48.



From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Wed Apr 21 19:46:54 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:46:54 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Spam on lists
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404212245460.338181@kosh.hut.fi>

Spamfilter might be a winning idea. Can mailman talk to one?

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From erik at nittin.net  Wed Apr 21 20:37:07 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:37:07 -0400
Subject: [admin] Spam on lists
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404212245460.338181@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404212245460.338181@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <A7F7D782-93D3-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 21, 2004, at 3:46 PM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> Spamfilter might be a winning idea. Can mailman talk to one?

Exim can.

Erik.




From nikodemus at random-state.net  Wed Apr 21 20:12:37 2004
From: nikodemus at random-state.net (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:12:37 +0300
Subject: [admin] New developer
Message-ID: <20040421201236.GA2567@random-state.net>

Julian Squires should be added as developer for Linedit and Osicat,
and since he doesn't have a common-lisp.net account yet one should
be created.

I've asked him to send in his GPG public key.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus

PS. I could add him myself, but in the absence of an administrative HOWTO
I lack the courage to mess with our setup. Maybe we should have one.
I can write the signing keys section...
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From erik at nittin.net  Wed Apr 21 20:36:52 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:36:52 -0400
Subject: [admin] New developer
In-Reply-To: <20040421201236.GA2567@random-state.net>
References: <20040421201236.GA2567@random-state.net>
Message-ID: <9EE175A6-93D3-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 21, 2004, at 4:12 PM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> Julian Squires should be added as developer for Linedit and Osicat,
> and since he doesn't have a common-lisp.net account yet one should
> be created.

Done.

> PS. I could add him myself, but in the absence of an administrative 
> HOWTO
> I lack the courage to mess with our setup. Maybe we should have one.
> I can write the signing keys section...

That's a great idea.

Erik.




From tek at wiw.org  Wed Apr 21 20:21:11 2004
From: tek at wiw.org (Julian Squires)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:21:11 -0400
Subject: [admin] access
Message-ID: <20040421202111.GD7601@balance>


Hi.

My GPG key: (available from most key servers)

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My SSH authorized_keys file is attached, in case you'd prefer that over a
password.

Cheers, and thanks.

-- 
Julian Squires
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From toy at rtp.ericsson.se  Wed Apr 21 21:04:51 2004
From: toy at rtp.ericsson.se (Raymond Toy)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:04:51 -0400
Subject: [admin] New CMUCL committer
Message-ID: <sxdk709vy8c.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>

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Please allow Fred Gilham commit privileges for cmucl.

Ray
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From erik at nittin.net  Wed Apr 21 21:11:53 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:11:53 -0400
Subject: [admin] New CMUCL committer
In-Reply-To: <sxdk709vy8c.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>
References: <sxdk709vy8c.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>
Message-ID: <83A37AF4-93D8-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 21, 2004, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Toy wrote:

> Please allow Fred Gilham commit privileges for cmucl.

Done.

Erik.




From toy at rtp.ericsson.se  Wed Apr 21 22:09:28 2004
From: toy at rtp.ericsson.se (Raymond Toy)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:09:28 -0400
Subject: [admin] New CMUCL committer
In-Reply-To: <83A37AF4-93D8-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> (Erik Enge's
	message of "Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:11:53 -0400")
References: <sxdk709vy8c.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>
	<83A37AF4-93D8-11D8-9CE6-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <sxdad15vv8n.fsf@edgedsp4.rtp.ericsson.se>

>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:

    Erik> On Apr 21, 2004, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Toy wrote:

    >> Please allow Fred Gilham commit privileges for cmucl.

    Erik> Done.

Thanks!

Ray




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Thu Apr 22 20:35:33 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:35:33 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] CL-PPCRE anoncvs trouble
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404222330250.490492@kosh.hut.fi>

I'll see if I can figure this out myself, but here's the case:

$ cvs -d :pserver:anonymous at common-lisp.net:/project/cl-ppcre/cvsroot
login
Logging in to
:pserver:anonymous at common-lisp.net:2401/project/cl-ppcre/cvsroot
CVS password:
$ cvs -z3 -d :pserver:anonymous at common-lisp.net:/project/cl-ppcre/cvsroot
co cl-ppcre
cvs server: warning: cannot write to history file
/project/cl-ppcre/cvsroot/CVSROOT/history: Permission denied
cvs server: Updating cl-ppcre
cvs server: failed to create lock directory for
`/project/cl-ppcre/cvsroot/cl-ppcre'
(/project/cl-ppcre/cvsroot/cl-ppcre/#cvs.lock): Permission denied
cvs server: failed to obtain dir lock in repository
`/project/cl-ppcre/cvsroot/cl-ppcre'
cvs [server aborted]: read lock failed - giving up

Iirc there have been similar problems before, right? What's the usual
cause?

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Thu Apr 22 21:36:49 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:36:49 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] CL-PPCRE anoncvs trouble
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404222330250.490492@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404222330250.490492@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404230034340.490492@kosh.hut.fi>

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> I'll see if I can figure this out myself, but here's the case:

Ok, seems that I can in the time I have right now. :/ I'm a bit baffled,
since all the groups and permissions seem fine.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From erik at nittin.net  Fri Apr 23 13:05:27 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:05:27 -0400
Subject: [admin] CL-PPCRE anoncvs trouble
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404222330250.490492@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404222330250.490492@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <E3F41AC4-9526-11D8-BD85-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 22, 2004, at 4:35 PM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote:

> I'll see if I can figure this out myself, but here's the case:

Have to editing the CVSROOT/config file and set LockDir to 
/var/lock/cl-ppcre
and make that directory 777.  Was never able to figure out why.

Erik.




From emarsden at laas.fr  Fri Apr 23 15:35:47 2004
From: emarsden at laas.fr (Eric Marsden)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:35:47 +0200
Subject: [admin] request for anonymous rsync service
Message-ID: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>

Hi,

Would it be possible to set up an anonymous rsync service at
common-lisp.net?  I have two use-cases in mind here:

   - the CMUCL web pages are hosted at cons.org/cmucl, but generated
     on the common-lisp.net machine. For the sychronization between
     the two (via a cron job), anon rsync would be better than ssh
     access, in order to avoid password management problems.

   - it would be a convenient way to update the CMUCL download
     mirrors.

The first case would be publishing the project web space over rsync,
and the second publishing the project's FTP space. 

For the second case, which might increase your bandwidth load
noticeably, I think we could arrange to have one mirror site sync with
common-lisp.net, and the other mirrors syncing with the "master
mirror".

Thanks,

-- 
Eric Marsden                          <URL:http://www.laas.fr/~emarsden/>



From erik at nittin.net  Fri Apr 23 16:48:56 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:48:56 -0400
Subject: [admin] request for anonymous rsync service
In-Reply-To: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>
References: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>
Message-ID: <1C28D798-9546-11D8-BD85-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>

On Apr 23, 2004, at 11:35 AM, Eric Marsden wrote:

> Would it be possible to set up an anonymous rsync service at
> common-lisp.net?

I do not have an objection to this.

Erik. 




From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Sat Apr 24 17:24:42 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:24:42 +0200
Subject: [admin] request for anonymous rsync service
In-Reply-To: <1C28D798-9546-11D8-BD85-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>
	<1C28D798-9546-11D8-BD85-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <fz65bp47c5.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>

Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:
> On Apr 23, 2004, at 11:35 AM, Eric Marsden wrote:
>
>> Would it be possible to set up an anonymous rsync service at
>> common-lisp.net?
>
> I do not have an objection to this.


Me neither.

Regards,
        Mario.
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From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Fri Apr 23 17:02:06 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:02:06 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] request for anonymous rsync service
In-Reply-To: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>
References: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404232000570.57983@kosh.hut.fi>

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Eric Marsden wrote:

> Would it be possible to set up an anonymous rsync service at
> common-lisp.net?  I have two use-cases in mind here:

Sounds reasonable to me, esp. given...

> noticeably, I think we could arrange to have one mirror site sync with
> common-lisp.net, and the other mirrors syncing with the "master
> mirror".

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From erik at nittin.net  Fri Apr 30 12:25:12 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:25:12 -0400
Subject: [admin] request for anonymous rsync service
In-Reply-To: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>
References: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>
Message-ID: <6D67D7D0-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 23, 2004, at 11:35 AM, Eric Marsden wrote:

> Would it be possible to set up an anonymous rsync service at
> common-lisp.net?

See if http://common-lisp.net/rsync.shtml works for you.

Erik.




From emarsden at laas.fr  Fri Apr 30 17:19:34 2004
From: emarsden at laas.fr (Eric Marsden)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:19:34 +0200
Subject: [admin] request for anonymous rsync service
In-Reply-To: <6D67D7D0-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> (Erik Enge's
	message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:25:12 -0400")
References: <wzin052puzw.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>
	<6D67D7D0-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <wzi1xm54c49.fsf@melbourne.laas.fr>

>>>>> "ee" == Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:

  ee> See if http://common-lisp.net/rsync.shtml works for you.

  seems to work fine, many thanks!
  
-- 
Eric Marsden                          <URL:http://www.laas.fr/~emarsden/>



From edi at dbdmedia.de  Wed Apr 28 20:08:47 2004
From: edi at dbdmedia.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:08:47 +0200
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
Message-ID: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>

Hi!

I'm currently maintaining the list for the Hamburg (and Berlin) Lispers
which is used to coordinate occasional meetings. This "list" is actually
nothing but an account and a .forward file on one of my machines at home. As
I'm about to re-arrange a couple of things I have to move this somewhere
else. We could use something like Yahoo! lists but I think it'd be nicer to
host this list on common-lisp.net if that's possible.

So, I'd like to apply for a "mailing list only" project like "regex-coach".
The name of the list should be "lisp-hh" and it'd be very helpful if you
could initially subscribe the following members

edi at agharta.de
ssekkat at gmx.de
grabarske at gmx.net
joswig at lispmachine.de
david at lichteblau.com
ahz at snafu.de
ahz at smi.de
unk6 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
ngo at cartan.de
benno.biewer at berlin.de
awillig at hpi.uni-potsdam.de
helmut at cybernetic-systems.de
Henner.Bartels at Hamburg.de
schween at snafu.de
Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle at t-systems.com
alemmens at xs4all.nl
hkirschk at csc.com
tekai at gmx.li
hans at huebner.org
Andrej_Bondar at gmx.net
tim at tenkan.org
costanza at web.de
a.thieme at freenet.de
uho at xlerb.de
dam at baltic-online.de
KilianSprotte at web.de
lars at dbdmedia.de
manuel at bl0rg.net

such that they get a welcome email with an automatically generated password.

Thanks in advance,
Edi.




From erik at nittin.net  Wed Apr 28 20:13:41 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:13:41 -0400
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
Message-ID: <8B2EFC9F-9950-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>


On Apr 28, 2004, at 4:08 PM, Edi Weitz wrote:

> So, I'd like to apply for a "mailing list only" project like 
> "regex-coach".
> The name of the list should be "lisp-hh"

I see no problem with this.

Erik.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Wed Apr 28 20:16:24 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:16:24 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <8B2EFC9F-9950-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
	<8B2EFC9F-9950-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404282315570.368068@kosh.hut.fi>

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Erik Enge wrote:

> > So, I'd like to apply for a "mailing list only" project like
> > "regex-coach".
> > The name of the list should be "lisp-hh"
>
> I see no problem with this.

Me neither.

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Wed Apr 28 20:29:48 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:29:48 +0200
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404282315570.368068@kosh.hut.fi>
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
	<8B2EFC9F-9950-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
	<Pine.OSF.4.58.0404282315570.368068@kosh.hut.fi>
Message-ID: <fzsmenzw03.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Nikodemus Siivola <tsiivola at cc.hut.fi> writes:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Erik Enge wrote:
>
>> > So, I'd like to apply for a "mailing list only" project like
>> > "regex-coach".
>> > The name of the list should be "lisp-hh"
>>
>> I see no problem with this.
>
> Me neither.

...nor do I (just in case)




From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Wed Apr 28 20:22:22 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:22:22 +0200
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
Message-ID: <fzwu3zzwch.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Edi Weitz <edi at dbdmedia.de> writes:
> Hi!
>
> I'm currently maintaining the list for the Hamburg (and Berlin) Lispers
> which is used to coordinate occasional meetings. This "list" is actually
> nothing but an account and a .forward file on one of my machines at home. As
> I'm about to re-arrange a couple of things I have to move this somewhere
> else. We could use something like Yahoo! lists but I think it'd be nicer to
> host this list on common-lisp.net if that's possible.

In principle, I guess, it is.

There are a few local groups around. I wonder if we should open an
umbrella project for this type of list. Ideas?

Regards,
        Mario.




From erik at nittin.net  Fri Apr 30 12:27:23 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:27:23 -0400
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
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References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
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On Apr 28, 2004, at 4:08 PM, Edi Weitz wrote:

> The name of the list should be "lisp-hh" and it'd be very helpful if 
> you
> could initially subscribe the following members

Done.

Erik.




From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Fri Apr 30 12:34:52 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:34:52 +0200
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <BBB8961A-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
	<BBB8961A-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
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Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:
> On Apr 28, 2004, at 4:08 PM, Edi Weitz wrote:
>
>> The name of the list should be "lisp-hh" and it'd be very helpful if
>> you
>> could initially subscribe the following members
>
> Done.

Should I put this up as a project? It somehow does not feel right.

How about an umbrella project for local groups?

Regards,
        Mario.




From erik at nittin.net  Fri Apr 30 12:44:25 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:44:25 -0400
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <fzoep9abkj.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
	<BBB8961A-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
	<fzoep9abkj.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
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On Apr 30, 2004, at 8:34 AM, Mario Mommer wrote:

> Should I put this up as a project? It somehow does not feel right.

I added it to independent-lists, isn't that enough?

> How about an umbrella project for local groups?

I'm not against it but what value does it add?  If someone wants such a 
project I'm
all for it.

Erik.




From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de  Fri Apr 30 13:36:27 2004
From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:36:27 +0200
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <1CFE2002-9AA4-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
	<BBB8961A-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
	<fzoep9abkj.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
	<1CFE2002-9AA4-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <fzzn8t8u5g.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>


Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> writes:
> On Apr 30, 2004, at 8:34 AM, Mario Mommer wrote:
>
>> Should I put this up as a project? It somehow does not feel right.
>
> I added it to independent-lists, isn't that enough?

Well, yes. Just checking.

>> How about an umbrella project for local groups?
>
> I'm not against it but what value does it add?  If someone wants
> such a project I'm all for it.

Ok, ok. Let's wait until there is a better reason that "just because
it seems TRT".... :-)

Regards,
        Mario.




From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi  Fri Apr 30 12:58:30 2004
From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:58:30 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <fzoep9abkj.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
	<BBB8961A-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
	<fzoep9abkj.fsf@germany.igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.58.0404301555200.515482@kosh.hut.fi>

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Mario Mommer wrote:

> How about an umbrella project for local groups?

Dunno. My first reaction is that as long as there is no actual need for an
umbrella, why bother.

Another take would be to create an entire other _section_ for local groups
-- http://www.common-lisp.net/lispers/, or something like that. But that's
probably even more trouble for even less gain...

Cheers,

 -- Nikodemus



From edi at agharta.de  Fri Apr 30 16:23:29 2004
From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:23:29 +0200
Subject: [admin] Hamburg Lispers Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <BBB8961A-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> (Erik Enge's
	message of "Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:27:23 -0400")
References: <000001c42d5c$9dbee0f0$a400a8c0@bird>
	<BBB8961A-9AA1-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>
Message-ID: <m33c6lzb7i.fsf@bird.agharta.de>

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:27:23 -0400, Erik Enge <erik at nittin.net> wrote:

> Done.

Thank you very much!

Have a nice weekend,
Edi.



From erik at nittin.net  Fri Apr 30 12:43:32 2004
From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:43:32 -0400
Subject: [admin] notice: upgraded viewarch
Message-ID: <FD022A6A-9AA3-11D8-AA2D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net>

At Marco Baringers request, I have upgraded ViewArch.

Erik.