[Clo-devel] learning

[Mario Mommer]

Nikodemus Siivola <nikodemus at random-state.net> writes:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 06:49:47PM +0200, Mario Mommer wrote:
> 
> > I've updated the "resources & learning" page. It is here:
> 
> I second the textual suggestion Erik made, with the following
> additions:
> 
>  * I wouldn't call CL-Cookbook articles "in-depth". They aren't. ;)

:-))

>  * Apparently the book to for learning CLOS is <forgot-the-name> by
>    Sonya Keene.

Yeah, but it isn't a good one to start learning lisp.

>  * I'd either leave "Setting Up The Environment" out completely,
>    or do it properly with all the requisite hand-holding. Third
>    alternative might be to outline the various environment options,
>    but that may be a bit overwhelming for a newbie.

Doing the requisite hand-holding means duplicating the installation
instructions of each lisp. I thought that for getting started, what I
worte there is enough. You install your lisp, fire up emacs, run the
inferior lisp, open up a file called whatever.lisp, and there you
go. There isn't much else a real newbie needs to know at first - or am
I missing something?

>  * Mention c.l.l. (with link to Google groups)

Oops! One of the many versions I had floating around did have that
plus a link to the lisp-newbies list. God knows where that
went. Thanks for noticing.

> > Should I call this page "learning Common Lisp" instead and reshuffle
> > everything?
> 
> Yes, I think "learning" might make a better title, but instead of
> massive resuffling I'd just remove the resource-hub section, *and* the
> ALU/CLiki links from the top bar (on every page) and put something
> equivalent as the first paragraph of index.html.

You mean work in the links to alu & cliki into the intro?

> > I'm planning to integrate this with the rest of the site soon, if
> > nobody objects...
> 
> I'm cool with it.

I think I will produce 1 more version of it first.